I'm a newbie. My sister and I see two different trees. The ancestors seem to be the same, but she
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@DavidCollings DavidCollings
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David
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We were all new once ...
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Do not panic ... all is OK ... all is as it should be ...
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FYI
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We do not have our OWN "Tree" in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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We ONLY have "Branches" (ie. Ancestral" lines), that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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Now ...
That said ...
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Most new (and, some old) Users/Patrons DO NOT understand the basic nature and premise of "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', when they join in.
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And ...
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As you are BOTH "Living" Users/Patrons, of "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', even IMMEDIATE Family members ...
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You; and, the other User(s)/Patron(s) [ie. your Sister, Family member(s)], WILL have to "Added" SEPERATELY (and, 'Yes'; as, DUPLICATES) the "Living" individuals/persons that connect/link you together in your respective 'FamilySearch' Accounts ...
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Basically, you and your Family member(s) have to "Build" a "Bridge" of the "Living" individuals/persons that connect/link you together in your respective 'FamilySearch' Accounts ...
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Once, you have built that bridge; then, when you come to your FIRST Common "Deceased" Ancestor, your "Ancestral" lines will connect/link together into one ...
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Please let me explain ...
[ Please bear with me ... I am very 'Verbose' ... that is my 'Style' ... ]
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We do not have our OWN "Tree" in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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We ONLY have "Branches" (ie. Ancestral" lines), that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is NOT like 'On-Line' "Websites" (eg. "Ancestry_com"; or "MyHeritage_com"; or, the like); and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes (eg, the OLD, now no longer supported, "PAF"; or, "Ancestral Quest"; or, the like).
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We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees' in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' like other 'On-Line' "Websites"; and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes.
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We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why any registered User/Patron can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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You can certainly "Merge"/"Combine" any "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' with another "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', regardless of who the User/Patron was that initially created those "Deceased" individuals/persons; as, they DO NOT reside with the User/Patron who initially created them - they are "Public".
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If fact, you can ONLY see "Deceased" individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; except, with this 'rider', that you can ALSO only see "Living" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' that YOU created; as, they reside in your "Private Spaces".
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No other User/Patron can see ANY "Living" individuals/persons that were created by another User/Patron; as, they ONLY reside in the "Private Spaces" of the User/Patron who created them.
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We CANNOT even see the ACTUAL Record in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' of our IMMEDIATE Family (eg. Spouse; Children; Parents; Siblings; ETC; Etc; etc) if they are "Living"; and, they have their own 'FamilySearch' Account.
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Of course, you can create your "Living" Family members; and, record them in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; but, they will ONLY be seen by you:
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▬ You cannot "Share" them with any other User/Patron.
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▬ You cannot "Merge"/'Combine" them with any other "Living" individual/person residing in the "Private Spaces" of another User//Patron.
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There is CURRENTLY no mechanism in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' for Users/Patrons, to "Share"; or, "give permission" to "Share", the "Living" individuals/persons in their own "Private Spaces" with/between other/another User(s)/Patron(s).
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There are a myriad of "Privacy" Laws within the many various Countries and Unions throughout the World - it is a nightmare to negotiate.
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"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is used in many Countries and Unions throughout the World; and, as such, must adhere to the myriad of "Privacy" Laws throughout the World.
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Hence, "Privacy" is one of the reasons that we cannot "Share" the "Living" individuals/persons in our own "Private Spaces" - it is NOT the ONLY reason; but, certainly has a bearing on the matter.
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Another factor is that such would have to be 'Coded'/'Programmed' into the Programme that is "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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'Yes', these "Living" individuals/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' WILL, in fact, in many (most) cases will be "Duplicated" - unfortunately a necessary situation that currently cannot be avoided.
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I know that there are "Duplicates" of the "Living" ME - at least, one for my Wife and each of our Children, not to mention my other ("Living") extended Family members.
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Here are some "Knowledge Articles" in 'FamilySearch' in regard to "Private Spaces" and "Living" individuals/persons:
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What is a private space in Family Tree?
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Who can see my living relatives in Family Tree?
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Here is a good place to start, with how things work in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' (and, other programmes as well):
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Introducing The Family History Guide
https://www.familysearch.org/ask/learningViewer/733
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Introducing The Family History Guide
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The Family History Guide
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I hope this helps.
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Brett
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Well, I'm certainly glad you are verbose! The issue of sharing or making public the info on living people is a touchy one. You have been very helpful, and I will try to read the links you sent. Right now, I need to educate my sister and granddaughter, because we three were quite perplexed.
David
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Are the IDs the same? (these would be the 7 character ID usually located under the name, such as LDXM-H17).
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yeh - its a good thing you dont see your sisters data
because if you did - so would all the rest of us.
and that is info for living people that needs to be kept private.
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it would be different if it was a "private tree"
but the whole paradigm of FamilySearch - is one common family tree that we all collaborate on. For that reason info on living persons is kept private to the account it is entered on.
Developers and Engineers are indeed looking into ways that info for living persons could be shared - but its a slippery slope convoluted by complex international privacy laws.
don't hold your breath waiting for it.
Family Search is well designed for sharing info on deceased persons - but not living.
That is by design.
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The view my sister has, for the living, is obviously unique. I had one deceased person - my mother - whom I must have created. It was not very complete. I used one of the tools to locate a more nearly complete entry for her that someone else had put in. It has locations and dates I didn't know. I then used the merge tool to get rid of mine and replace it with the complete one. As a novice, I probably did it inefficiently, but got it done. The whole structure has me greatly impressed.
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yes - you're on the right track.
merging will only work for deceased persons.
the living people entered by your sister will not be available to you.
but yes - all the deceased people can be accessed by anyone and in a perfect world there should be one record for any deceased person.
keep working at it.
feel free to ask any questions.
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