I uploaded a Gedcom file to family search, but how do I make that my family tree?
I assumed uploading the file would automatically fill out my tree, but I'm still the only one listed as it doesn't show any of my immediate or distant relatives.
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@Robert Bannan Wenk III
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Robert
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Question: WHERE did you 'upload' the GECOM File into 'FamilySearch'?
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The:
(a) "Genealogies" Part; or
(b) "Family Tree"
they are two (x2) distinct and totally separate sections!
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In reference to "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', a couple of things:
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(a) As far as I was aware, the 'upload' from the GEDCOM File would NOT have loaded any "Living" individuals/persons (eg. IMMEDIATE "Living" family members).
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(b) A such [re: (a)], YOU will NOT be connected/linked to any of your "Deceased" Ancestors/Family/Relatives that were 'uploaded' from the GEDCOM File
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As an aside ...
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We do not have our OWN "Tree" in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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We ONLY have "Branches", that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is NOT like other 'On-Line' "Websites" (eg. "Ancestry_com"; or "MyHeritage_com"; or, the like); and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes (eg. the OLD, now no longer supported, PAF; or, "Ancestral Quest"; or, the like).
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We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees' in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' like other 'On-Line' "Websites"; and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes.
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We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why any registered User/Patron can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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Plus ...
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You can; but ...
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Please DO NOT upload a GEDCOM File in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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Upload GEDCOM File in the "Genealogies" Part of 'FamilySearch', that is fine; but, please NOT into "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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Some of the reasons that Users/Patrons (like myself) DO NOT want the ability to upload a GEDCOM File into "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' are:
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(1) It is most likely that individuals/persons in a GEDCOM File are ALREADY in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; and, most Users/Patrons DO NOT even take the time to look to see if any one in their GEDCOM File is already in "Family Tree", in some instances, negating the need to even upload the GEDCOM File.
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(2) There has been (many) cases where Users/Patrons, using the "Compare" process (of the upload) have "Dismissed" a "Possible" Match with an individual/person already in "Family Tree"; so that, their "Record", from their GEDCOM File, is loaded into "Family Tree", regardless; just so that, their "Record" appears in "Family Tree" (and, in some instances, for Members of the Church, so they can do the "Temple" Work, despite the fact that the "Temple" Work is ALREADY done with the "Possible" Match with the individual/person already in "Family Tree").
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(3) Even with the "Compare" process (of the upload), there has been (many) cases where Users/Patrons have uploaded THEIR version of an individual/person in their GEDCOM File, on top of (ie. Over) an individual/person ALREADY in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' that has been there for MANY years and is well documented and "Sources" - in many instances obliterating all of the documentation and "Sources".
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(4) If an individual/person is ALREADY in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', there is NO need to up uploaded one's version of an individual/person from one's own GEDCOM File - just take note of the the 'FamilySearch Person Identifier' (PID) of the individual/person that is ALREADY in "Family Tree"; and, one can go back later to ensure what information/detail is recorded and attached for that individual/person. Just DO NOT uploaded one's version of an individual/person in their GEDCOM File, on top of (ie. Over) an individual/person ALREADY in "Family Tree" - obliterating all of the documentation and "Sources" ALREADY in place/on record.
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(5) The "Hours" (sometimes "Days") of work, by other Users/Patrons, that can be needed to CORRECT the DAMAGE done by the upload of a GEDCOM File can be disheartening.
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I am sorry ... 'off my soap box' ...
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Enter (ie. 'Create) the individuals/persons in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' one at a time - on a one by one basis.
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Many of the individuals/persons most probably ALREADY exist in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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Only one or two of one's generations of "Living" Family members (and, perhaps one or two of one's generations of "Deceased" Family members) may be required to be entered/input in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; before, some of the "Deceased" individuals/persons from Ancestral lines ALREADY existing in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', are discovered.
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Use the "Find" facility/function/feature to Search "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', you may be surprised to find some (if not, many) of them already there.
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Many well established and documented (eg. "Sourced") individuals/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' have been RUINED by the upload a GEDCOM File into "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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Of course, IF, one has looked in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' and NONE of one's Ancestral lines are in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; THEN, the upload of a GEDCOM File would be the way to go - BUT, ONLY if one has looked in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' and NONE of one's Ancestral lines are in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'
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I hope this puts things into perspective.
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Furthermore ...
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Rather than the 'upload' of a GEDCOM File directly into "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch, the best option is to use one of the many "Third Party" Applications that are "Certified" to work with "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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Some of the "Third Party" Applications that are "Certified" to work with "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', are 'On-Line' "Websites"; whereas, some are 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes.
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Some of the "Third Party" Applications that are "Certified" to work with "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' have, BOTH, a FREE version; and, a "Subscription" (ie. "Paid") version - the latter just having more 'Bells and Whistles'.
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The "Third Party" Applications that are "Certified" to work with "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' can be found in the "Solutions Gallery" of 'FamilySearch'.
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Here is a direct link to the "Solutions Gallery" of 'FamilySearch':
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https://partners.familysearch.org/solutionsgallery/s/
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You can use, one; or, more ...
The choice is yours ...
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Much better than a GEDCOM File ...
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I hope this helps.
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Brett
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WOW! Thanks, Brett. There's a lot of information here.
I uploaded my Gedcom file to the genealogies section so I'm glad I did that right!
I hadn't actually started "my" family tree on here hence my confusion as to why deceases relatives of mine didn't show up. I thought uploading the file would just match my name to the upload and create or fill-in my tree. I did know about not seeing living relatives, but I thought that was only for the the public search. I had assumed I would be able to see them in my own tree.
As far as the research, I do know that the Latter Day Saints have the most exhaustive records. However, I have some differing dates in my file that I've coordinated with other users from Ancestry. In some cases, I replaced the current record with the one I uploaded. Do you know if someone will see those updates and try to confirm or deny the differing information?
As far as names in the "Invalid and Living" category. I believe some of the names in my upload did not have a death date/year so they may appear to be living when they are not. Is there a way to edit these names to get them to appear in the "add to tree" category? There are 934 names in my upload; 321 are listed as "invalid or living." I would like or make sure those who are deceased get added.
Thank you so much for all the information you provided.
-Bob
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@Robert Bannan Wenk III
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Bob
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That is such good news.
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Of course, you will probably already know this; but, just in case ...
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This is where you will find the GEDCOM File that you 'uploaded' to the "Genealogies" Part of 'FamilySearch':
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https://www.familysearch.org/mytrees/trees
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Now ...
Here are some things that you need to know/understand ...
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Those GEDCOM Files that you 'uploaded' to the "Genealogies" Part of 'FamilySearch' will NOT contain any individual/person from that GEDCOM File that is REMOTELY considered as "Living" (ie. No "Death" details) - purely and simple for 'Privacy'.
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Plus, those GEDCOM Files that you 'uploaded' to the "Genealogies" Part of 'FamilySearch' are for RESEARCH purposes ONLY; and, can be viewed by ALL "Registered" Users/Patrons.
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And, those GEDCOM Files that you 'uploaded' to the "Genealogies" Part of 'FamilySearch' are 'Static'; that is to say that, they cannot be "Edited" (ie. "Changed"), they can ONLY be "Deleted"; and, replaced by an updated version.
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I am sorry for my previous 'tirade' (and, of course, 'verbosity') ...
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Unfortunately, like so many Users/Patrons, I have been 'on the receiving end' of some of those ('well-meaning'; but) 'wayward' GEDCOM File 'uploads'.
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Those "Third Party" Applications that are "Certified" to work with "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', either, 'On-Line' "Websites"; and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes, are the way to go.
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As an aside ...
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Although, I do not use any of the "Third Party" Applications that are "Certified" to work with "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', I have experimented with some of them.
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And ...
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IF, you are 'Old School' (like many of us); and, have used the "Old" PAF; plus, are happy with a 'standalone' personal (computer) programme; THEN, can I suggest that the Basic (and, FREE) version of "Ancestral Quest" is the way to go.
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[ FYI: Basically, PAF (by the Church) was created from base code of "Ancestral Quest"; as, provided/supplied to the Church by the owners/developers of "Ancestral Quest" ]
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For those used to PAF, "Ancestral Quest" has the upmarket and up-to-date feel of PAF. It would not take long for a PAF User/Patron, to become comfortable and proficient in "Ancestral Quest". And, "Ancestral Quest" IS "Certified" to work with "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' (from what I hear, they work quite well together).
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Rider: I am not associated with "Ancestral Quest" in any way - just a suggestion.
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I would venture to say that most (if not all) of those "Third Party" Applications that are "Certified" to work with "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' would be good to use, it just depends on one's preference and requirements.
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Each to their own ...
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But, remember ...
You can use just one; or, as many as you like ...
The choice is yours ...
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Good Luck.
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Also, remember, ask as many "Questions" as you like ...
DO NOT hesitate to ask "Question", no matter how simple they seem ...
We were ALL "New" ONCE ...
That is what this "Community.FamilySearch" Forum is all about ...
Users/Patrons helping/assisting Users/Patrons ...
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Furthermore ...
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For a little bedside 'light' reading ...
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We can ONLY see "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; except, with this 'rider', that you can ALSO only see "Living" individual/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' that YOU created; as, they reside in your "Private Spaces".
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No other User/Patron can see ANY "Living" individuals/persons that were created by another User/Patron; as, they ONLY reside in the "Private Spaces" of the User/Patron who created them.
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We CANNOT even see the ACTUAL Record in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' of our IMMEDIATE Family (eg. Spouse; Children; Parents; Siblings; ETC; Etc; etc) if they are "Living"; and, they have their own 'FamilySearch' Account.
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Of course, you can create your "Living" Family members; and, record them in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'; but, they will ONLY be seen by you:
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- You cannot "Share" them with any other User/Patron.
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- You cannot "Merge"/'Combine" them with any other "Living" individual/person residing in the "Private Spaces" of another User//Patron.
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There is CURRENTLY no mechanism in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' for Users/Patrons, to "Share"; or, "give permission" to "Share", the "Living" individuals/persons in their own "Private Spaces" with/between other/another User/Patron.
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There are a myriad of "Privacy" Laws within the many various Countries and Unions throughout the World - it is a nightmare to negotiate.
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"Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' is used in many Countries and Unions throughout the World; and, as such, must adhere to the myriad of "Privacy" Laws throughout the World.
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Hence, "Privacy" is one of the reasons that we cannot "Share" the "Living" individuals/persons in our own "Private Spaces" - it is NOT the ONLY reason; but, certainly has a bearing on the matter.
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Another factor is that such would have to be 'Coded'/'Programmed' into the Programme that is "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.
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'Yes', these "Living" individuals/person in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' WILL, in fact, in many (most) cases will be "Duplicated" - unfortunately a necessary situation that currently cannot be avoided.
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I know that there are "Duplicates" of the "Living" ME - at least, one for my Wife and each of our Children, not to mention my other ("Living") extended Family members.
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Here are some "Knowledge Articles" in 'FamilySearch' in regard to "Private Spaces" and "Living" individuals/persons:
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What is a private space in Family Tree?
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Who can see my living relatives in Family Tree?
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Plus ...
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Here is a good place to start, with how things work in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' (and, other programmes as well):
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Introducing The Family History Guide
https://www.familysearch.org/ask/learningViewer/733
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Introducing The Family History Guide
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The Family History Guide
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I hope this helps.
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Brett
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The GEDCOM upload of FS - uploads your data to a private database area.
However, FamilySeach Family Tree is a Public - Collaborative database of billions of records that we all share. Chances are good that many of your ancestors are already in FamilySearch Family Tree - you simply need to "connect the links" between you and them.
see: https://community.familysearch.org/s/feed/0D53A00004skwTTSAY
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