I am trying to find a wedding for my Great Grandmother and have hit a brick wall. Charlotte S (Smith

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I am trying to find a wedding for my Great Grandmother and have hit a brick wall. Charlotte S (Smith) Stanbridge had 4 Children with a Andrew West (1881, 1882(3), 1884(5) & 1887. Andrew West is listed a Father to all and Charlotte mother as West formerly

Charlotte S (Smith) Stanbridge had 4 Children with a Andrew West (1881, 1882(3), 1884(5) & 1887 in London. Andrew West is listed a Father to all and Charlotte mother as West formerly (Stanbridge). She was born in aprox 1858. Cannot find any details about Andrew West.

Brett .

@Neal Smerdon​ 

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Neal

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As an aside ...

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I cannot find a "Marriage" between a "Charlotte S. Stanbridge" (or, "Charlotte Smith STANBRIDGE") to a "Andrew WEST" in "England and Wales" (between 1837 and 1992).

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The ONLY one I can find for a "Charlotte S. Stanbridge", which just happens to be a "Charlotte Smith STANBRIDGE", is to, most likely, a "Frederick Edmund WILKINS", in the Second Quarter (April, May, June) of 1893, in the Registration District of "Portsea" (an alternative name for "Portsea Island") in the county of "Hampshire", England.

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Per ...

FreeBDM

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

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There were "Marriages" for a few "Andrew WEST's"; but, none came even close to a Spouse of anything like, "Charlotte S. Stanbridge" (or, "Charlotte Smith STANBRIDGE").

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Have you checked the 'On-Line' "GRO" of England and Wales for the Mother's "Maiden" Name of the Children, to ensure it was "STANBRIDGE".

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All seems a little odd.

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Brett

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LegacyUser

Hi Brett,

Can confirm all details, as have all 4 Birth Certificate's. Just to confuse that matter, she married my grand father as Smerdon in 1893 in Porstea but at least we have all those details, just not this Andrew West.

Neal

Brett .

@Neal Smerdon​ 

Neal

Hm ...

And ...

NONE of the Spouse's of any of the "Andrew WEST's" was, either, a "Charlotte S"; or, a "Charlotte Smith" (or, the like), regardless of the 'Family Name'/'Surname' ...

The plot thickens ...

Brett

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LegacyUser

Brett,

My wife and I know. We cannot find anything, even 1891 census Charlotte is stated as married but Andrew West not in/or about on the census (London) but he was a Stone Mason. We think Andrew West may of died after last child and before Charlotte married my grand father Smerdon (1893), as all the children took the Smerdon surname.

Thanks for any assistance

Neal

Brett .

@Neal Smerdon​ 

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Neal

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I understand you have the Children's "Birth Certificates".

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And, I assume you mean that the Mother's Name on the "Birth Certificates" is "Charlotte Smith STANBRIDGE" (or, the like).

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That is fine, that would be the case; even, if the Children were "Illegitimate" (ie. Born Out of Wedlock).

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But ...

That said ...

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IF, the Children were "Illegitimate" (ie. Born Out of Wedlock); THEN, in/on the 'On-Line' "GRO" of England and Wales, the Mother's "Maiden" Name would NOT appear, it would be just a "-" (ie. "Dash"). That is an indication that the Birth of the Child was "Illegitimate" (ie. Born Out of Wedlock).

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That is WHY I asked if you had checked the 'On-Line' "GRO" of England and Wales.

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At least, IF, the Mother's "Maiden" Name appeared as a "-" (ie. "Dash"), in/on the 'On-Line' "GRO" of England and Wales; THEN, you KNOW that the "Couple" were NOT "Married".

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Just a thought.

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Brett

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LegacyUser

Morning Brett,

Yes checked GRO and all say Charlotte S West and birth certificates (plus formerly Stanbridge) it's very strange that cannot find marriage.

Neal