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DawnL5317
DawnL5317 ✭
November 12 in Family Tree

Ive had dna taken spent money to get verification. Still at a dead end with my 2nd great grandfather. To many people have wrong information. JOHN sinclair born Jan 20,1835 was married to Sarah bertram,she was born in 1849 in Canada. He passed may 10th 1922 in ingham county mi. She passed 1925 in perry,mi. I'm not sure why there's so many with the wrong information but his mother was not Elizabeth Ross. This has been verified. I've asked Tiffany not to edit the correct information. Or add records that do not involve my family. Previous conversation was deleted.

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  • Kreout
    Kreout ✭✭
    November 12

    Dawn, I understand the frustration here. When many trees repeat the same mother, repetition starts to look like proof, so questioning it is the right instinct.

    For a 1922 death in Ingham County, the one record I would chase first is his Michigan death certificate. It usually names both parents, including the mother with her birthplace, as reported by the informant. Treat that line with care, but it gives you a concrete claim to test instead of competing opinions.

    Then work backward one step at a time. The 1900, 1910 and 1920 census entries should show his birthplace and immigration year, and the marriage record to Sarah Bertram may name parents on both sides, depending on where and when they married. Whatever record breaks the Elizabeth Ross link, attach it to John with a short reason statement saying what it shows. That note stays visible to every future editor, which protects the correction better than asking one person not to edit.

    On the DNA side, an autosomal test alone rarely names a second great-grandparent. What moves such cases is grouping the shared matches and building their trees down until a common couple appears. If you try that, start from the closest matches you cannot yet place, not from John.

    And one practical note about the shared tree. Nobody owns a person page there, so disagreements are settled with sources plus the discussion thread on the person page, and the Watch button to be notified of changes. That keeps the right data standing even after an old conversation is gone.

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  • DannyLRaymer
    DannyLRaymer ✭✭
    November 12

    Since you mentioned DNA testing as one of your tools, it is good to understand the benefits and limits of the most common DNA tests - Autosomal, Y-DNA, and mtDNA. The Autosomal, a broad test for shared DNA markers, will only give you high confidence of shared DNA information for a few generations. For connection to further generations, the Y-DNA test (only for men) that tests the male Y-chromosome, for the paternal line and mtDNA or Mitochondrial DNA test (both men and women) for the maternal line can be very helpful. There is a lot of information on all these tests on the Internet and Youtube. Currently, only FamilyTreeDNA.com and MyHeritage.com offer the Y-Chromosome tests.

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