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ChristineKollwitz
ChristineKollwitz ✭
June 14 in General Questions

Hi there, attached is a copy of my Austrian grandparents marriage document. You will see that some of their future children are listed on this document (but not all of them). My question is why would these children be listed here and if this was the norm, why not all of the children?

I was just curious as to the reason for this. Thanks Christine

Sawrschel marriage to molzer.jpg
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  • GFre
    GFre ✭✭✭
    June 17

    Hi @ChristineKollwitz.

    The Austro-Hungarian Empire Research group may be able to answer this question. Please consider joining the group and re-posting there.

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  • Gordon Collett
    Gordon Collett ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 19

    @ChristineKollwitz , I don't see that you have made it over to the other group yet, but I think I can make at least a guess for you. Something that is very helpful is that the image you posted is in color. That makes it very obvious that the notations in blue ink were added at a later date. Looking closely, you can even tell that they were entered at three different times.

    Staring at these, it is interesting to see that these four children were, if I am reading this right with my extremely limited German:

    • Born 2 April 1947, died 16 April 1947
    • Born 2 April 1947, died 18 April 1947
    • Born 3 Dec 1948, died 6 April 1949
    • Born 4 July 1950, then according to Google translate "the child's incompetence is established by the judge" on 8 November 1952. (Looks like his mother would have been 40 years old at this point which suggests this child might have had Downs Syndrome.)

    It looks like these were official entries for children who died in infancy or, in the case of the fourth, handicapped in some way. Since you say that these were only some of the children in this family, I would assume the others grew up and did fine. If it was a usual practice to go back to the marriage register and make notations of this type, you should see these throughout the marriage register.

    If these were notations added by a researcher or clerk after all these three events, I would have expected the ink and handwriting to be the same in all four entries

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  • ChristineKollwitz
    ChristineKollwitz ✭
    June 29

    Thanks @Gordon Collett, I really appreciate your comments on this. One thing I do know is that the child born in 1950 was not handicapped but in fact illegitimate. This I know, because I have met her and she is the product of an affair my grandmother had with a Greek man.

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  • Gordon Collett
    Gordon Collett ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 29

    So I would assume that the word that Google Translate rendered as "incompetence" actually means "illegitimacy."

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