GRO double entry for children, or TWIN?
On an England census record (1911) it indicates a mother had 10 children - 6 living and 4 died. I have found all but one child on the GRO, however, one child is listed twice (see insert below) - same year/quarter, same name of child, same district, same volume/page, same mother's maiden name, etc. - is this a TWIN? I have ordered the record, but wondered if this is common, and would this one record (same volume/page) contain information about the living child and include information about a twin that died?
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I love using the GRO! The digital image comes within minutes and costs much less than the other options. I found this child not listed on FS:
Name
William Gerald Block
Record Type
Baptism
Baptism Date
23 Jan 1903
Baptism Place
Hammersmith, Hammersmith and Fulham, England
Father
Mother
His death is registered in March 1904, Fulham, vol 1A, page 203. last name spelled Bloch,
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FreeBMD has only one Christine Elsie Block in 1894 and that page only has 10 entries on, so nothing to suggest anything odd in reality.
I believe that this is an error in the GRO data - I checked 3 other children on that Uxbridge p23 (from FreeBMD) in the GRO system - all 3 were duplicated.
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@Adrian Bruce1 yes, that's what I was thinking; I've actually sent the GRO an email to have them investigate. My hope is that they can locate the 10th child that the mother said she had on the census record…. I'll leave this post open and hopefully can report encouraging results when the GRO responds, and/or when I receive the PDF copy for the child. Thanks for your input!
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If you are referring to children of the coupe who married at Worksop in 1881, I have counted 10 children who could have been theirs - 2 born at Worksop and the other 8 in the Middlesex / London area.
I assume you went through all the Block / Wright children found on the GRO website, so maybe you missed one! I'll be glad to share my list, if you wish.
Update - I just took a break, and using the GRO and FreeBMD websites easily found the 4 children (out of the total of 10) who died.
Strangely, I am not able to find the family in the (FamilySearch) 1901 and 1911 census records - the latter of which you refer to above.
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@Paul W yes, it's the children born to the couple married in Worksop; there are several registration districts for birth of the children. Also, the 1911 census was transcribed Bloch (not Block) and a few other issues, so it's not a wonder it can't be found easily. Harriet Wright GH49-ZHL is the mother, and you'll find the 1911 census on her record; children Joseph, Lilian and Alfred had died prior to 1911, but all others listed survived beyond that date, except the mystery child, who probably died prior.
Yes, please do share your list; the 9 currently shown under the above PID for Harriet were found, plus the DOUBLE for Christine Elsie Block, but not sure if that's just an error by the GRO - waiting for a reply from them. Thanks for the help!
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@ChristensenChristine1 great! I believe that's it! I don't know why I missed it; Christine must have distracted me in the mid 1890's. How do you receive the GRO digital image within minutes; are you using the GRO website (takes 4-plus days), or are you ordering through Find My Past?
Thank you for your help! It'll be interesting to see what the GRO says about the double entry for Christine, but it appears William Gerald Block is child #10 who died prior to 1911!
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I order digital images on the GRO website; it comes in minutes. You click on the circle next to the name in the GRO, and your options are certificate, PDF, or digital. Click on the digital and follow the directions for payment. It is 3#, which is about $4. I just noticed there is a help video there. The first time I ordered I didn't tell my husband I was ordering and he thought we had been hacked since he saw a charge from England. When I am searching for babies in a family, I go way beyond the mother's childbearing years. Sometimes you find surprises.
You don't always have to order the image to confirm the birth if you can find a baptism record. I found his on ancestry.
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Hummm, didn't even pay attention to it; that's awesome - and FAST! Thanks!
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@Ottley BQ To order an image and receive instant gratification https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/app_select.asp
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Glad to see you have apparently identified William Gerald (1903-1904) as the "missing" child.
The digital images are not available for all records / periods, but you can save money where they are available. Unfortunately, the quality is not always too good: I could just about pick up the essential detail on one copy I downloaded, but when I complained I was given a full refund!
I assume you now have the particulars of all the children you were trying to identify - birth and death registrations (the latter for the ones who died pre 1911), but please return if you want any further advice.
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