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NicoTordini
NicoTordini ✭
April 29, 2020 edited February 8, 2021 in Family Tree
Hello, I have created my own tree, including my father (living person). He has recently created a familysearch account, but he can't find his own person because it's in my private space. Is there any way to make him visible to himself?
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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 29, 2020 Answer ✓

    @Nico Tordini​ 

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    Nico

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    Further to what 'Dennis' has already proffered ...

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    No other User/Patron can see ANY "Living" individuals/persons that were created by another User/Patron; as, they ONLY reside in the "Private Spaces" of the User/Patron who created them.

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    We CANNOT even see the ACTUAL Record in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" of our IMMEDIATE Family (eg. Spouse; Children; Parents; Siblings; ETC; Etc; etc) if they are "Living"; and, they have their own "FamilySearch" Account.

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    Of course, you can create your "Living" Family members; and, record them in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch"; but, they will ONLY be seen by you:

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    - You cannot "Share" them with any other User/Patron.

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    - You cannot "Merge"/'Combine" them with any other "Living" individual/person residing in the "Private Spaces" of another User//Patron.

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    There is CURRENTLY no mechanism in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" for Users/Patrons, to "Share"; or, "give permission" to "Share", the "Living" individuals/persons in their own "Private Spaces" with/between other/another User/Patron.

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    There are a myriad of "Privacy" Laws within the many various Countries and Unions throughout the World - it is a nightmare to negotiate.

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    "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" is used in many Countries and Unions throughout the World; and, as such, must adhere to the myriad of "Privacy" Laws throughout the World.

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    Hence, "Privacy" is one of the reasons that we cannot "Share" the "Living" individuals/persons in our own "Private Spaces" - it is NOT the ONLY reason; but, certainly has a bearing on the matter.

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    Another factor is that such would have to be 'Coded'/'Programmed' into the Programme that is "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".

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    'Yes', these "Living" individuals/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" WILL, in fact, in many (most) cases will be "Duplicated" - unfortunately a necessary situation that currently cannot be avoided.

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    I know that there are "Duplicates" of the "Living" ME - at least, one for my Wife and each of our Children, not to mention my other ("Living") extended Family members.

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    And, just so you are aware ...

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    We do not have our OWN "Tree" in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".

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    We ONLY have "Branches", that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".

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    "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" is NOT like "Ancestry_com" or the like.

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    We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees' in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" like other "Web" Sites; and/or, 'standalone' personal programmes.

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    We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".

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    "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why any registered User/Patron can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".

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    You can certainly "Merge"/"Combine" any "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" with another "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch", regardless of who the User/Patron was that initially created those "Deceased" individuals/persons; as, they DO NOT reside with the User/Patron who initially created them - they are "Public".

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    If fact, you can ONLY see "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch"; except, with this 'rider', that you can ALSO only see "Living" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" that YOU created; as, they reside in your "Private Spaces".

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    Here are some "Knowledge Articles" in "FamilySearch" in regard to "Private Spaces" and "Living" individuals/persons:

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    What is a private space in Family Tree?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/salesforce/viewArticle?urlname=Understanding-Private-Spaces&lang=en

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    Who can see my living relatives in Family Tree?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/salesforce/viewArticle?urlname=Who-can-see-my-living-relatives-1381815101424&lang=en_US

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    Here is a good place to start, with how things work in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" (and, other programmes as well):

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    Introducing The Family History Guide

    https://www.familysearch.org/ask/learningViewer/733

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    Introducing The Family History Guide

    https://ps-services-us-east-1-914248642252.s3.amazonaws.com/s3/help-learningcenter-fh1-prod-s3/2019/03/08/9b82903f-89e0-426f-8815-5e652b960d17/Introducing-TFHG.pdf

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    The Family History Guide

    https://www.thefhguide.com/

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    I hope this helps.

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    Brett

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  • Dennis J Yancey
    Dennis J Yancey ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 29, 2020

    He will not find any record that you have created on your account for him.

    LIVING Persons are only accessible in the account that they are created in (for privacy/security and legal reasons)

    A "private space" is just that - Private.

     

    Your Father will need to create his own record - in his own account (if he so desires)

     

    YOU and him will NOT be able to share records for LIVING PERSONS between you - you will both need to create those living persons in your own account - and then connect them to deceased persons in the system.

     

    It is the Deceased persons you will be able to share - - but living persons are only accessible within the one account that they were created in. and for two different users - they would each have to create a record for that same private person.

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