Portrait view diagram
Until recently, in portrait view, the connector would connect the parents to the a child box such that if the child has a partner we would know exactly who is the child and who is the partner. Recently, I noticed that now the connector connects the parents to the middle of the boxes with the child and the partner, making it difficult to know who is the child and who is the partner. How can it be fixed? I could send images of both cases, but there is no way to send images here.
________ _________ ________ _________| father| |mother| | father| |mother|
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________ ________ _______ ________| child | | wife | | child | | wife |
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For me, the PORTRAIT (BETA) tree includes a vertical line that drops either directly from the parents to the child (if there is only one child with no partner displayed), or from the horizontal line that separates the generations (if there is more than one child displayed or there are partners). In either case, the partner floats in mid-air with no line connecting the partners (this may be intentional). There is less horizontal spacing between partners than there is between siblings and siblings-in-law. I am using Windows 10, with up-to-date Chrome browser and a 24.8" monitor.
If this isn't what you are seeing, can I suggest that you add a note here with the PID of one of the parents whose children are not displayed correctly? This is in lieu of attaching a screenshot here which, unfortunately, has not been possible for some weeks. You might also like to send some feedback using the button in the middle of the left side of the tree display; that may reinforce your comments.
I don't normally use the Portrait tree view but, after looking at it today, I've found a few other issues with it. I won't steal your thunder by listing them in this discussion, though.
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As I couldn't insert images showing what I mean. I tried tu use the arcaic characters drawing, resulting in a disaster… 😅
I received a message from Kerry Palm, from the FS Pacific support. I sent a message to the FS support center including images, which clarifies my point, and he agrees with it. Until recently (say some 3-4 weeks) the connections were perfect. Then it messed up. If the child has no partner, there is no problem where the line linking the parents to the child falls. But with a partner it cannot fall right between the child and the partner. One can not distinguish whi is the cild and who is the in-law. One cannot argue that the family name resolve it. Kerry mentioned about this Portrait (beta), but I see no pop-up message in my browserBurt I managed to insert a image of the way FamilySearch used to be until 3-4 weeks ago. It's here 👇️
See the lines connecting the parents Mims and Emily tho the child Mary Kate? That's unquestonable that Mary Kate is the child and not William. Of course that the family name corroborates that, but one can't count with family names.
Since 3-4 weeks ago, this diagram changed and the lines connecting the parents to the child with partner fall s wight in the middle of the two conjoined boxes, making it really hard to find out who is the child and who is the partner. See the example below👇️ (I hope you can see; click the link - I'm using google drive)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KmPlYXquCQc0aNbU6h4H3W4s579XXaQi/view?usp=drive%5Flink
It is a lateral portion of my tree. This is a screenshot taken yesterday, with the current Portrait chart (not Beta - I can't access it). In this case, the lines connecting to the child can not distinguish who is the child and who is the partner. One can't tell if the child of the couple is Manoel Rodrigues or Isabel Rodrigues. Compare this (new) style with the (old) previous style.
I know that the FS enginners are upgrading the chart. It was working fine, but now it is not.
Cheers…, and thanks for the interest. Jorge
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When I went to switch from my normal Descendancy view to Portrait in order to look at this, the only portrait option that I had available on the menu was PORTRAIT (BETA), so that was what I chose. The new display has a banner at the top saying "Thanks for trying out the new Portrait pedigree. Please use the Feedback button to tell us what you think. DISMISS GO BACK". I've just "gone back", and I see what you mean.
Now that I am looking at the current non-beta portrait pedigree chart, there is a different banner at the top that says "We have a new and improved version of the Portrait pedigree. Try it, and let us know what you think. DISMISS TRY IT".
The new version doesn't have the problem that you have described. I imagine that it will become the current version in due course. I don't imagine that the engineers would want to fix this problem in a chart that looks like it will become obsolete sooner or later. If you don't see the banner advertising the new version, it might be worth asking a moderator if they can find out why.
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The Portrait Beta does not show up for me, and there is no banner indicating the beta version. In the past I have received invitation for beta version of other tools. What surprises me is that 3-4 weeks ago, the Portrait view would have the feature that you see in the beta version. One day I notices that it had changed to the current appearance. But if you search the intenet for "FamilySearch portrait" you will see several images showing portrraits with the feature that is shown in the to-come beta. I added am image in my previous post.
I don't know how to access the beta version. Can you senme the partial URL that you see in the portrait beta?
My URL is https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/portrait/…<ID>…0 -
AHA…. now I got the beta version! I don't know what I did, but it's here! The URL is the same. It appears right after I send the last post.
Looks thaesame as prior to 3-4 weeks ago, with full colored frame. I haven't try the functionalities, but the appearance is the oldie.0 -
Too many arrows. In portrait, we can toggle on/off siblings. But it misses an important feature: a way to see the couples information like the date of marriage, as we can in landscape view. I sent a ffedback suggesting to include some way to see couple events in portrait view.
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I've just discovered that there is a group by the name of . It was created in December 2022, and the latest update to the "Known issues…" discussion is in October 2023, so I don't know if the group is intended to be used for what is now the BETA view. However, users (including myself) have been joining the group very recently, and there are some recent posts about the Portrait view. @Clif Bergmann, could you comment on the current status of this group, please?
If this group is still considered to be appropriate, I wonder if it would be useful to post issues there. This would at least make them known to other interested users, whereas Feedback disappears into the ether and isn't visible to others. That would mean that users wouldn't have to duplicate Feedback because they are unaware that their issues have already been reported.
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I think this new Portrait(beta) shows too many arrows and pluses.
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I am really disappointed with the Portrait (Beta), with that many arrows and their actions. Now, the expansion of the tree backward in time (upwards) is a drag. In the current version, ONE click in the top of a couple expands with 12 individuals (4 parents and 8 grandparents). To get the same expansions with the beta, one needs to press 6 (SIX) times!!! One click for each parent (2 clicks) and one click for each grandparent (4 clicks); total 6 clicks. It is ABSOLUTELY DISAPPOINTING. I have added more than 4300 people to my ancestors' tree; In some branches I count more than 65 generations. With this beta version it is impossible to do maintenance and traverse the tree. I have submitted some feedbacks about that.
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You asked what I think. Well… for me the portrait view is okay, but I much prefer the landscape view. In some cases, I have been unhappy with the moving to the far right, or left, and loosing site of the person immediately below this wide width of names.
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