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Bateman, Nolan
Bateman, Nolan ✭✭
March 17, 2024 edited January 16 in Family Tree

This just showed up today. Another way to slow down a simple task. I used to go into any event field, and quickly tag, or untag any source. For example if birth and you have exact details that show birth such as birth record, draft source, etc. You could untag those estimated sources like census records, and quickly remove them to see the good stuff. If a record has less than a dozen sources this is not a big deal to see them all. Last time I checked one my grandparents had 53 sources. Try looking at that record and tagging just the good stuff. I wouldn't even try now.

Now when you go to do it opens another screen of the source where you can untag it. Now it takes 2 clicks per source when it used to take one click. Another improvement that has doubled my finger action. My finger is not getting younger.

I add thousands of sources a year.

I prefer the older source linker. I understand it better. Last I checked it was also slowing me down when it comes to tagging source events.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 18, 2024

    There was a post some weeks ago with a complaint that the check box was too small, meaning that the source was sometimes displayed instead of the box being checked. I wondered if this change was an overreaction - if they don't like the size of the box, we'll just do away with it.

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 18, 2024

    Oy, you're right, that's a truly aggravating disimprovement.

    Please, if anyone is listening, revert this change. It is a demonstration of how to do everything wrong in a process.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 18, 2024

    Here is the thread I recalled regarding the size of the checkbox: https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/152580/need-a-bigger-target-area-for-tagging-checkboxes?utm_source=community-search&utm_medium=organic-search&utm_term=checkbox+

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  • Gordon Collett
    Gordon Collett ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 18, 2024 edited March 18, 2024

    Took me a while to find it, but you can still open the full tagging screen by clicking Select Source at the bottom of the list. So it is just one extra click to tag or un-tag any or all sources:

    Screenshot 2024-03-17 at 8.47.04 PM.png

    It really should say "Select Sources" since you can tag or un-tag multiple sources. But they did not make the target field any larger. It is still just the inside the box itself. Since clicking on the source title in the second popup no longer expands the source, they could have made the target field for clicking the entire line:

    Screenshot 2024-03-17 at 8.50.50 PM.png

    I wonder if part of the reason for doing this was to separate viewing and editing. Were people accidentally changing tags when they didn't mean to? Or is this encouragement to actually look at the sources and not just tag everything?

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  • Paul W
    Paul W ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 18, 2024 edited March 18, 2024

    Interesting comment from Gordon:

     Or is this encouragement to actually look at the sources and not just tag everything?

    To be honest, the tagging feature is one I have rarely made much use of (possibly my loss!) as I usually keep two tabs open when working on an individual: for the Details page and the Sources page.

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 18, 2024 edited March 18, 2024

    Click-creep: "here, we've disimproved your process by adding three extra clicks, but you can save two of those with this one well-hidden extra click, now isn't that much better?" Well, yes, one is less than three -- but it's still more than zero.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 18, 2024

    My two cents' worth - I've already looked at the sources, carefully, before I attached them. Now I'm just trying to go through the extra step of tagging them since that option now exists. I've been doing a LOT of tagging since I became involved in the early pilot for Profile Quality Score.

    The change makes that effort more cumbersome.

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  • dlmelville
    dlmelville ✭✭✭
    March 18, 2024

    For what it's worth ... in my opinion, most don't know the purpose of tags and take the default that the source linker provides, which is usually tag everything. The new source linker also "hides" the tags which requires a user to Show All in order to even see the tags.

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 18, 2024

    @melville,dl, the extra impedance on tagging outside of Source Linker wouldn't matter too much if Source Linker really did "tag everything". The problem is, it doesn't: it can only "tag everything in Vitals where the label exactly matches an indexing field's label" -- and it's very strictly only in Vitals, and they really do mean exactly. (To Source Linker, indexes are Scripture, and it belongs to a literalist denomination.)

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  • ScottSeegmiller
    ScottSeegmiller ✭✭✭
    March 21, 2024

    I have added this thread to the Known Issues in Source Linker and will post updates as the engineers are able to work on the issue.

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  • ScottSeegmiller
    ScottSeegmiller ✭✭✭
    July 5, 2024

    On May 15, we released tagging for death registration and birth-christening events. We are auto tagging some non-vital events now but we cannot tag all events as there are too many. Please continue to review tags and add them manually.

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