How to enter additional cemeteries
Hello: I like the new cemetery in search options. Is there a way to give feedback for additional cemeteries not listed? I have 2 that aren't listed there.
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You can click on the feedback button on the lefthand side of the page.
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(What new cemetery in what search options?)
To suggest additions or corrections to FamilySearch's Places database, you can use the Places tool: https://www.familysearch.org/research/places/.
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(This new search option:
I assume that these cemeteries come from the Places database and that is where missing ones would need to be added. And I'm sure that people will only show up here if their burial place is properly linked to the standardized cemetery place name. This should end once and for all disagreements as to whether the burial place should include the cemetery or not.)
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Urk, I hadn't noticed that.
It's rather silly to record the cemetery for 99.9% of my relatives: "[place] cemetery, [place], [county], [country]".
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Not surprised you didn't notice. I didn't either until it was mentioned in a RootsTech presentation. At least it isn't any added work to pick the cemetery since usually the place and the cemetery place are right next to each other in the place name drop down menu.
And this does answer the dozen of pleas here in communities over the past couple of years that all went "I am traveling to ... and I know I have some relatives buried in some of its dozen cemeteries but I don't know who they are or which cemetery. How can I find them?"
What I haven't checked out is if this is only looking at the burial place. One of the auto-standardization errors I run into is changing "[place]" into "[place] cemetery." I need to go to some of the index batches where everyone was christened or married in the cemetery, find people that have had that source added but the place name as carried over in the source linker not corrected, and see if they show up in the cemetery search. But with all the new features released with RootsTech I'm feeling rather overwhelmed right now. I have a list of dozens of posts to other's comments and minor bug reports and general observations that I could write and do nothing else for the next few days. So I'm kind of hesitating getting started. Kind of the feeling of standing on the tip of a high dive and being reluctant to take the jump.
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@Julia Szent-Györgyi said: 'It's rather silly to record the cemetery for 99.9% of my relatives: "[place] cemetery, [place], [county], [country]".'
Can you help me understand why you think that's silly? It seems to me that if the cemetery actually exists in the places database, then specifying the exact cemetery helps in a couple of ways: it provides leads for following up on research, perhaps contacting the sexton; and it puts a pin on the cemetery (rather than just the town) for various mapping functions and other features such as the Cemeteries feature mentioned in the OP and that @Gordon Collett clarified.
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@Gordon Collett I have added your suggestion for Source Linker suggesting a Cemetery for a Birth or Marriage Place to the list of Known Issues. And don't stop submitting your recommendations. Your feedback is very helpful.
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@Alan E. Brown, in Bana, a community with population 1,500 in Komárom county, Hungary, the coordinates of the mayor's office are 47.65, 17.92, while the coordinates of the cemetery are 47.65, 17.92.
In Harta, a community with population 3,350 in Bács-Kiskun county, the cemetery is at 46.69, 19.03, and the community center is at 46.69, 19.03.
In Balassagyarmat, a town of 14,000 in Nógrád county, we finally get distances that show up (barely) at two decimal places: the county hall is at 48.08, 19.29, while the cemetery is at 48.08, 19.30.
That's why I think it's silly to record a burial as occurring in "Balassagyarmat cemetery, Balassagyarmat, Nógrád, Hungary."
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Any chance this cemetery feature is just a beginning? I imagine a lot of people would like to have a "Show all people born in ..." with a "Show just my relatives" filter. I imagine the place should be limited to a city or smaller. Having "Show all people born in the United States" would not really be useful.
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Random musings: I do hope that this new feature does not lead people to make up cemetery information thinking that because of this new feature we are now required to enter a cemetery name under burial.
I enter burial information three different ways for the small, rural communities of western Norway where my wife's relatives are.
1) There are parish registers that cover multiple churches but do not specify which church a funeral took place at and never mention a cemetery. These I enter the funeral date and the municipality.
2) There are parish registers that cover just one church or that cover multiple churches but specify which church an event took place at. But these also never mention any cemetery or where the person was actually buried. These I enter the funeral date and the church.
3) There is an excellent database of graves maintained by one of the genealogy groups in Norway, Slekt og Data. If I can find a person in that database then I enter the funeral date and the cemetery. However, since cemetery plots in Norway are free for the first 25 years then require a maintenance fee, when families quit paying the fee, the plots are recycled and used for someone else. So it is rare to find grave markers back more than a couple of generations.
So there are limitations inherent in this new feature for most of Norway because you really can only find the cemetery for a small proportion of the deceased population. But this is going to be true for any tool. Where it fits, use it. Where it doesn't, don't. And this one is going to be great for a lot of people in some parts of the world.
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