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BraydenGraves
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October 22, 2023 edited October 31, 2023 in Family Tree

I just came across a profile in the Family Tree, and something about it just rubs me the wrong way. I don't even think I need to do anything more than put the link here, it's pretty self explanatory.

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/G23R-GF2

To make matters worse, I'm pretty sure at least one of the merged profiles was the victim of faulty research, not a person that doesn't exist. Any thoughts?

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    October 22, 2023 Answer ✓

    Well, at least nobody else has taken him up on the "offer", so far.

    Whether it's allowed or not -- and I guess it's not technically against any rules -- it's sloppy. Profiles for people who never existed fall into two categories: accidental or deliberate. Deliberate fictional profiles are against the rules and should be dealt with using the reporting tools, not by sweeping them into a random hole. Accidental nonexistent people, on the other hand, are basically always based on an error about a person who did exist, and should be gotten rid of by merging with that person.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    October 22, 2023

    @Stephanie V. This is even worse than those "Delete Delete" names that I reported some months back. "Hell's Kitchen, New York City, USA" obviously didn't exist in 1699.

    @BraydenGraves link to the thread where I reported something similar. https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/133708/abuse-of-the-tree#latest

    I think both are examples of people who don't know how to properly document/correct profiles in the FSFT.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    October 22, 2023

    It's definitely crude. And, in my book, it's disrespectful of those elders we strive to honor through our research.

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  • BraydenGraves
    BraydenGraves ✭✭✭
    October 22, 2023

    @Áine Ní Donnghaile I think the location is meant as a joke about where the "fake" person belongs

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    October 22, 2023

    Of. course, but the FSFT is not the place for bad jokes.

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  • Alan E. Brown
    Alan E. Brown ✭✭✭✭✭
    October 22, 2023

    Look at the Note. This profile is explicitly designed to be used to "delete" persons via merge.

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  • BraydenGraves
    BraydenGraves ✭✭✭
    October 22, 2023 edited October 22, 2023

    @Alan E. Brown I'm aware of that, but it feels wrong.

    (Edit: There used to be frustration here with the lack of explanation, but I've had a conversation with the person who made the profile, and the person I thought was real wasn't, but the explanation probably shouldn't be made public.)

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  • BraydenGraves
    BraydenGraves ✭✭✭
    October 22, 2023

    Well, I've been talking to the person who made the profile about one of the merges, and it turned out that they had genuine reasons to believe that the person didn't exist. I don't know if that changes anything on this topic, I just wanted to get that out here. They aren't ignorant like I thought before.

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  • BraydenGraves
    BraydenGraves ✭✭✭
    October 22, 2023

    @Julia Szent-Györgyi As it turns out, at least one of them was deliberate sabotage.

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  • BraydenGraves
    BraydenGraves ✭✭✭
    October 22, 2023

    @Julia Szent-Györgyi I sent a message to FamilySearch about the sabotaged profile, and I got a message back saying it didn't meet their criteria for abuse.

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  • darlog
    darlog ✭✭✭
    October 22, 2023

    This has been reported as abuse, and will be reviewed by FamilySearch, and possibly action may be taken to rebuke the person who started this.

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  • BraydenGraves
    BraydenGraves ✭✭✭
    October 22, 2023
    https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/comment/531398#Comment_531398

    The Mass Grave or the sabotaged profile? They're different.

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  • darlog
    darlog ✭✭✭
    October 24, 2023

    The mass grave.

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  • Maile L
    Maile L ✭✭✭✭✭
    October 31, 2023 edited October 31, 2023

    Thanks for your report. The profiles for these fictitious persons no longer exist

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