What happened to the index of the 1930 US Census done back in the early 2000s?
I am looking at a record on the 1930 US Census, and I can no longer make heads or tails of the index. I participated in the indexing of the 1930 census back in the early 2000s, but this is not what we did as indexing volunteers back then. That index made sense. This one has all of the relationships messed up.
When I try to add relationships, it won't let me add a wife if there is a son, and I can't add the son if there is a wife. Hello?? Isn't it likely the man had a wife if he has a son?? I haven't even gotten to the daughter yet. But I am guessing it will ask me to delete the relationship to the wife before I can add the daughter.
Can anyone tell me why this new index doesn't work when trying to add multiple relationships and where did the index go that we already did?
The index image:
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Delete everything in the URL from the question mark to the end to see the view you remember. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9R4J-D47 The URL in your message is from the new "edit everything" option.
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The "edit everything" is what I am having trouble with. The people in the household were all listed separately except the father and the son. The wife and daughter were not in the household on the index, making it impossible to attach the record to each member of the family on one "Attach to Family Tree" screen.
I was trying to add the relationships in the edit option, but it would only let me add one relationship if I deleted all of the others. I believe it is the editing of the relationships that seems really messed up.
I have noticed many households in the 1930 census that have gone from being in a household group on the index to being all listed separately in the last several months. Would that be because of this editing page?
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@Stephanie Spencer Booth as I said, use this URL https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9R4J-D47
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I have seen that page, but all of the relationships on it are disconnected, which you can see when you try to attach a record to a family. You have to attach each person in a household on a separate "Attach Historical Records to Family Tree" page because they are all listed in separate households.
So I go to the editing page, and it will only let me add one relationship per person. So a child can only have one parent, or a parent can only have a spouse but no children.
When the records were originally indexed, they were grouped by household, and those groups are gone now. The tool we have to edit the groups does not function very well.
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The new tool desperately needs a dedicated community group that's visited often by the programmers working on it, because it keeps coming up with novel ways to mess things up.
I think the relationships got (inadvertently) deleted if someone tried to use the "drag names" option before it was ready. (It's one of the newest additions to the tool.) On the page you linked, it detached or ungrouped every second name -- and some error somewhere also keeps adding a second copy of the "birth name", resulting in doubling of every name element ("Ida Ida Jones Jones"). And corrections don't "stick". I deleted all of the doubled names on the page, but they're mostly back. Oh, and it keeps marking everyone as a principal. Again, correcting it doesn't "stick".
The tool is messing things up and not working properly. I've submitted feedback on the page, but it seriously feels like shouting into the void.
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So it is the editing tool that is messing things up. Maybe I need to wait a month and come back to this when they've worked the kinks out of it.
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Julia, I discovered a new problem with the tool that crops up when I'm at the FSC or Affiliate accessing restricted records. With the extremely limited hours at the FSC, we really don't need to lose precious time because of the new tool.
If I access a record that defaults to the edit-all, I'm disconnected from the Portal and have to restart the entire process.
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Áine, thank you for that information about the problems with the tool at the FSC. I was going to try it at our local FSC tomorrow. I will use my precious time there doing something else!
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