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Can I please see the birth date on a specific WWII draft registration card?

DanielGonik
DanielGonik ✭
September 27, 2023 edited September 30, 2024 in Search

Basically, I and an online acquaintance of mine were re-researching this man's case: https://gerontology.fandom.com/wiki/Ernest_Peronneau

And I found this 1902 birth record which I suspect is for him (he himself claimed a birth in 1902; his 1910 US Census entry implies a birth in 1903; his mother's maiden name is wrong on this document--it's supposed to be Spencer, not James--but everything else on it matches, other than his birthday being one day off relative to what he himself claimed): https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4VXR-7X3Z

Basically, I want someone with access to Ancestry.com to take a quick look at his WWII draft registration card, which one can apparently find here: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=2238&h=194564903&tid=&pid=&queryId=fcd6b68e743196c9aa7a749018d3563f&usePUB=true&_phsrc=DfP171&_phstart=successSource

So that one can see whether he already roughly claimed the same birth date that he did later on in his life back in the early 1940s. This would allow us to increase the odds that the 1902 birth record posted above is indeed for him and not for a sibling of his. (BTW, I did find several birth records for his various siblings, but none of them have a birth date anywhere near his.)

If he claimed a birth date on or very close to March 6 or March 7 back in the early 1940s, back when he had no idea that he would ever actually manage to live to an extremely old age, then again, we would significantly increase the odds that it's his birth record. Unfortunately, this birth record doesn't list a first name, only a last name, and while his last name appears to be very rare, it never hurts to double-check this kind of stuff, especially when he man in question claimed to have lived to age 112, which is an extremely rare age for anyone, let alone a man, to reach.

FWIW, his WWII draft card is the very first link here: https://www.ancestry.com/search/?name=Ernest_Perroneau&event=_South+Carolina&birth=1902

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 27, 2023

    I thought I'd take advantage of the remaining three weeks of my current subscription (which I will not be renewing), but the "Share" button is unfortunately grayed out on this record, for some reason.

    Card is dated Feb. 15, 1942 on the back; the front claims an age of 39 (with a penciled 38 after it) and a date of birth of March 6 1903.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 27, 2023 edited September 27, 2023

    Here's the Share link: https://www.ancestry.com/sharing/6555330?mark=7b22746f6b656e223a22714d6372426538524f742f762b2f2b6c58386d69614b453975455a584f4e434a53794e35386d56482f32343d222c22746f6b656e5f76657273696f6e223a225632227d

    @Julia Szent-Györgyi for me, the Share link is not grayed out, as in not active, just gray, as in a different color from the Save button.

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 27, 2023

    @Áine Ní Donnghaile: huh. It's working now, but it was definitely not doing so, earlier: it was a much paler gray than the Print button, and mouseover and click both did nothing.

    (Maybe Ancestry takes even longer to wake up than I do? :-)

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 27, 2023 edited September 27, 2023

    There's a 2nd place to grab the share link, in case that ever happens again. On the record image, there is this icon.

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    That also takes you to the share link. There is a tooltip on hover showing "share."

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  • DanielGonik
    DanielGonik ✭
    September 27, 2023 edited November 28, 2023

    Thank you very much, Julia! :) I have now gotten your PMs! :)

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  • DanielGonik
    DanielGonik ✭
    November 28, 2023

    Question:

    Would it be possible for anyone (not Julia since apparently her Ancestry.com subscription has already expired) to send me a copy of the fourth item in the link here? https://www.ancestry.com/search/?name=Ernesto+Nathaniel_Peronneau&birth=1903

    The one from this source: U.S., Departing Passenger and Crew Lists, 1914-1966

    I want to see if the date of birth roughly matches with that on his WWII draft registration card.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    November 28, 2023 edited November 28, 2023

    If you are asking if Ernesto in the 4th item is the same man as in the 1st item (WWII draft), they were not born in the same state.

    The draft registration for Ernesto shows his birthplace as Charleston SC. The passenger list shows his birthplace as East Orange NJ. There is no DOB or even year of birth - simply an age. https://www.ancestry.com/sharing/8006212?mark=7b22746f6b656e223a225741426748384d524762622b51773870655559337145452b5751636e6255482f485237376645364e5338513d222c22746f6b656e5f76657273696f6e223a225632227d

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  • DanielGonik
    DanielGonik ✭
    November 28, 2023 edited November 28, 2023

    Ernest Peronneau actually was born in Charleston, South Carolina. He moved to New York later on. It's possible that he spent some time living in New Jersey as well.

    And thank you, Aine. FWIW, another member here has already sent me a copy of this document via PM, but nevertheless thank you very much for sharing this information with me.

    You can read about Ernest Peronneau's life story here: https://longeviquest.com/supercentenarians/ernest-peronneau/

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  • Maile L
    Maile L ✭✭✭✭✭
    November 28, 2023

    @DanielGonik For future reference, you may want to locate the nearest FamilySearch Center or affiliate library. These locations should allow you to access Ancestry for free. Check out this list.

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