Bug Report: Editing Dates is Broken
Please forward this to correct programming team.
If I find a date that is incorrect:
and edit to the correct date then click on the proper line in the drop down menu:
then try to edit the standard:
the correct standard does not appear as it does when editing place names. Please fix this so that dates can be edited without needing to completely erase them and re-enter them.
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I think the problem is that you are putting the day of the week in. The website doesn't know what that means.
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Just like place names, the dual data entry system in Family Tree works great for adding addition information to dates. The website never knows what the user entered data means until the user links the date or place to the appropriate standard reference value. As you can see in my first image, the user-entered date and the references are linked just fine as shown by the green check mark followed by the phrase "Standardized Date."
The only bug is that correcting the date is broken. The only way to correct a date currently is to completely erase it and re-enter it. What should be happening instead, is that my final image above should show 4 April 1946 in the standardized version drop down menu, not the March date.
The dual data entry system is wonderful, so I hope they can fix this flaw that has crept in. It used to work just fine.
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@Gordon Collett I just checked by messing with the birth date of a living relative, and I can confirm that my theory was correct. If you add the day of the week, the computer has no idea what you are saying and uses the previous date as the standard in order to keep it searchable.
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No, that is not the problem. Erase the date, re-enter it with additional information, and it will standardize just fine. The editing of the data is broken. It works with place names just fine.
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@BraydenGraves, as Gordon says, including the day of the week has nothing to do with it.
Removing that distraction: I edited "March" to "Apr" and chose the reddish text to keep what I typed.
If I click the down arrow, the old March date is still the only choice available.
That list should include "April", to match the newly-typed text. The bug is that it doesn't.
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@Julia Szent-Györgyi Weird, I've never come across that until I tested my theory. Was it bad timing, or is that happening to everyone right now?
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I don't edit dates all that often. It has been happening at least since August. Probably longer.
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This was sent in to the team for investigation.
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I have been told this has been fixed.
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Please let them know that unfortunately, this has not been fixed:
1) Start with original date:
2) Edit the date:
3) Choose the rust colored text:
4) Click on the standard to edit the linkage:
The standard cannot be corrected.
This does work correctly with place names:
1) Start with the original place name:
3) Edit the place name:
3) Choose the rust colored text:
4) Click on the standard to edit the linkage:
Works properly so that the most appropriate standard can be linked.
Please ask them to try again. This is an important feature to use when correcting a date when it contains an entry that does not exactly match the standard it is to be linked to. Otherwise the only way to edit such a date is to completely delete the entry and start over from a blank field.
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Thanks @Gordon Collett. I have passed that info on.
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Thank you for taking such interesting in helping identify confusing parts of the UI and helping clarify what the issue is.
You are right in that if you click on the standardized drop down, it does not give you the new standardized value you are looking for. And Yes that is totally frustrating.
A work around while the feedback is being reviewed, is to CLICK in the TEXT FIELD. When you do that it will give you the option to pick a new standardized value based on the updated values in the text box. I understand this to be not intuitive, it will give you the option to select the standardized value you are looking for.
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@jasond814 Thanks. I do understand that the current way to edit the standard is to click in the text box to open that drop down menu, click on the top red line of text to preserve it, then click on the standard to open the standards drop down list to pick the new standard. That is not frustrating at all once one understands the needed workflow. It works great for place names but is exactly what does not work for dates.
Since my report is apparently still not being understood, here is a video demonstrating the problem in painful detail: https://youtu.be/d5a74vEWKII
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@Gordon Collett You right, I was missing that one extra detail. Thank you for the video.
And while you can select the new standard from the drop down it would require you to change the original data yet again - and that is no bueno.
Let me see about getting that fixed.
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@Jason Public Daniels I just got around checking out this issue editing dates. The problem has been solved and it works just fine now. Thanks!
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