Records 1500 and earlier?

Memory Smith

In March 2011, we received Handout highlights, suggestions and guidelines, from "Tips for using New FamilySearch" among others these were mentioned.

:- Work on your first 5-6 generations. Leave older records to experts. And,

:-DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH RECORDS IN THE 1500S AND EARLIER. LOOK ONLY.

Leave these to the FamilySearch experts, such as the Medieval Unit and professional genealogists.

I have often heard people saying that they have done their research up to Adam and

Eve, and some to the brothers of Jesus, and quite frankly I cannot believe that this can be done.

Is there anyone that can tell me if these instructions still exist, and if they do, how can I find them to impress patrons and members?

Sincerely,

Memory Smith.

Rhonda Budvarson

Here is a more up-to-date article. Hope this helps.

https://www.familysearch.org/en/fieldops/article/pre-1500-issues

Memory Smith

Dear Rhonda,

Thank you for your reply, but unfortunately I have not been able to find this article, not through family search or google. I am really interested to see this, if there is any other way, please let me know.

Sincerely,

Memory Smith.

Graham Buckell

@M. Smith

This article is for Church members only as it discusses ordinances, etc. If you are signed into your member account, you should be able to view the article by clicking on the link provided.

If you are not signed in, you will receive the following message

Memory Smith

Thank you Graham,

Yes, I have been a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints all my life, and I was signed in, and did sign in again to adjust my selected Notifications preference, but still could not read open the link kindly sent by Rhonda.

Strangely I received your notification now through email and (under the bell :) in family search, but her's was only through email?

Sincerely.

Graham Buckell

Might be a temporary computer glitch.

I suggest you try the following:

1. Try again - there may have been a temporary glitch.
2. Have you turned your computer off since last trying? If not then reboot.
3. Try using a different browser
4. Check that your browser is up-to-date (eg. for Chrome, click on the three vertical dots on the far right, click help, click About Google Chrome)
5. Clear FamilySearch cookies - go to https://www.familysearch.org/cookies
6. If all of the above do not work, try clearing all of your temporary files and cookies in your browser (for Chrome this is the 3 dots again, Settings, Security & Privacy, Clear browsing data).

N Tychonievich

This article might be helpful: https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/is-it-possible-to-trace-my-lineage-back-to-adam-and-eve

Rhonda Budvarson

Pre-1500 Issues

October 14, 2022

Handling Pre—1500 Issues

The issues from guests on this topic are usually requests to perform ordinances for individuals born before 1500. To complete these issues, you must verify the direct line relationship of the guest to the person for whom they are requesting ordinances. According to current Church policy, direct line means grandparents and siblings of grandparents. The guest cannot request cousins or other descendants outside of his or her direct line for pre—1500 individuals. This job aid has 3 parts: initial research of the issue, qualifying the requested name, and qualifying the guest. Also included are examples of restricted categories.

Step 1: In a web browser, navigate to FamilySearch.

Step 2: In the top right corner, click your avatar and select the Data Admin option.

Step 3: Click the Family Tree tab and select Find.

Step 4: Click the Find by ID tab and enter the PID.

Step 5: Click the person’s name from the results page and open the Person Page.

Step 6: Review the Details on the person’s record.

• Look for titles, notes, sources, or a life sketch that indicates this person was famous, noble, or royal.
• Determine if the family makes sense. Look at the landscape view and determine if names and dates are on all previous generations.
  • Names should not be just Mr. and Mrs.
  • Localities are specific.
  • Data Issues due to wrong relationships should not be here.
  • There should not be duplicate children, parents, or spouses.

Step 7: Research the person in question using Wikipedia and Google to determine if the requested person or a direct relative (parent, spouse, or child) is in a restricted category (see Restricted Categories for more information). Perform research in FamilySearch Wiki for information regarding status in that given locality.

Step 8: Based on your research, use the following scenarios to choose which template you will use to reply to the guest.

• If the person or a relative of the person is in one of the restricted categories, email the guest using the Against Policy template.
• If the individual is legendary or possibly fictional, email the guest using the Requirements for Temple Work [Not CJK] template. Refer to the Inappropriate Submitter instruction.
• If none of the above options apply, and if no dates are found for the individual, parents, spouse, or children, use 2 templates: No Birth or Death Date in Record and Requirements for Temple Work.
• If the person was born before A.D. 200, email the guest using the Pre—200 First Presidency template. For Chinese, Japanese, or Korean names, use Requirements for Temple Work and change 1500 to 200 in 2 places in the text.
• If more than 10 names are submitted in a single issue, use the Requirements for Temple Work template.

Qualify the Requested Name

If the ancestor being requested does not fall under Restricted Categories, check to see if ordinances need to be done.

Step 1: Open DMConsole.

Step 2: Copy the ID number of the individual and paste it into the Search box.

Step 3: Click the magnifying glass, or press Enter.

Step 4: Click the Labels tab.

Step 5: Make note (but do not remove) any restrictions on the record that may affect the guest’s request. For example, this type of label should be noted but not removed: Miscellaneous–Pre—200, Inappropriate Submissions–Royalty, Names–Fictional, Miscellaneous–Medieval.

Restricted Categories

The following are examples of restricted categories:

• Biblical names: If you find records of Heavenly Father or Jesus Christ, please report them to staff.
• Famous people.
• Fictional characters.

Nobles or anyone with the following titles: King, Queen, Emperor, Empress, Czar, Earl, Count, Countess, Duke, Duchess, Pharaoh, Prince, Princess, etc.

:)

Memory Smith

Dear Rhonda,

Thank you so much for all this information, which I am just going to print and give to anyone who makes inquiries, because this is totally beyond my capacity to understand, as I am of the old school, probably three generations ago, I will be 80 next year :) and my grandchildren are capable of understanding all these points so beautifully described, like Avatar and DMConsole??

However there are many things that are very interesting, and I really appreciated all the time and trouble you put into this reply, thank you again, so very much for all your help.

Sincerely,

Memory Smith.