create new tag, source

lcpearce

Hello

I am unable to add a new tag (marriage) to a source which is a marriage record. When I click the add a new tag button, I either get the message that all the tags have been created, or I get an option to select an additional tag like "occupation" that doesn't even pertain to the record. How do I create a tag called "marriage"? I can't believe this isn't even an existing tag!

Sample: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/MSMD-W13

Áine Ní Donnghaile

Hover over the marriage fact so it turns grey.

Then click within the grey area and the couple relationship will open.

Click TAG SOURCES for another layer of pop-up.

And then select the check box and Save.

Julia Szent-Györgyi

Note that there needs to be a prior step for Áine's directions to work: the marriage source needs to be added to the (separate, segregated) couple relationship sources section. Sometimes Source Linker has already done this for you, sometimes not; I have not yet figured out a pattern for it. (Nor have I ever found a magic pixel in Source Linker for identifying an index entry as a relationship source.)

If you want to avoid re-entering sources, first go to the relevant profile's individual sources list and copy the relationship source(s) to your Source Box. (Click the title to expand, click View, then Copy to Source Box.) Then, to see and add to a relationship sources list, click the edit (pencil) button to the right of the relationship.

The Add Source button works much the same way as it does on an individual's Sources tab.

Alan E. Brown

@Áine Ní Donnghaile explained how to connect a source to a marriage, which is helpful.

A person's sources can only be tagged to conclusions (names, events, facts) that are connected to the person. But a marriage is connected to a couple relationship, not directly to a person. That's why "marriage" won't appear as an option for tagging a source for a person.

Gordon Collett

Sometimes Source Linker has already done this for you, sometimes not; I have not yet figured out a pattern for it. (Nor have I ever found a magic pixel in Source Linker for identifying an index entry as a relationship source.)

I've had my suspicions about this but hadn't gotten around to seeing if there was a pattern to sources showing up on the Couple Relationship page. So I finally did some testing. It really seems to be that if in the Source Linker you move over marriage information, then sources to the couple event as well as to each individual. If you do not move over the marriage information then sources are only added to the individuals.

Here the source was added to the couple:

but at the relatively minor cost of creating a duplicate marriage event that now needs to be deleted.

(The magic pixel indicating a relationship source is the word "marriage.")

The actual wording of the source depends on how you enter the Source Linker. In the above, I entered through the husband's copy of the source. If I enter through the wife's copy of the source so that she is the focus person:

and I add the duplicate marriage event via the husband's section, then the source title is the same as his version of the source:

I wonder if this behavior of the source attachment process is somehow required in that the source cannot be attached separately from the creation of a new event or if this was just an oversight. Guess I'll go off and suggest that this behavior be fixed so the we can attach half a dozen marriage sources without being required to create six marriage events then deleting five of them.

Áine Ní Donnghaile

When possible, I create the marriage fact first and then attach the source(s), taking care to keep the source attachment from creating a duplicate event. Of course, I can't do that if I'm working on a profile that already has the event and triplicates.

Gordon Collett

That is what I do, also. And that is why I never get marriage sources automatically showing up on the Couple Relationship page and had been wondering why they are sometimes there and how other people got them them to show.

(Sorry for the bad typo above. I did some half-editing of a sentence and missed that I made things worse. Should have been: "It really seems to be that if in the Source Linker you move over marriage information, then sources are added to the couple event as well as to each individual.")

Áine Ní Donnghaile

And the specific Help Article for the prior step. https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/how-do-i-add-a-source-to-a-couple-relationship

Alan E. Brown

Earlier in this thread, @Gordon Collett said: "Guess I'll go off and suggest that this behavior be fixed so the we can attach half a dozen marriage sources without being required to create six marriage events then deleting five of them."

Here's a link to that suggestion: https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/147341/improvement-request-attaching-marriage-sources-through-source-linker