Incorrect information has been posted and needs to be deleted.
Regarding a baby named Shirley Jane FRANK b. 4 December 1930 Iowa City, Johnson County,Iowa, d. 20 December 1930 Iowa City,Iowa according to her birth certificate she was the daughter of Elmer W. FRANK and Alice B. OWEN.
HOWEVER, on her page, there are "similar records" listed for her which are false. The two people listed in those similar records are not her parents! I am the granddaughter of those 2 people and I am requesting that their names and information be deleted from the page of the above named Shirley Jane FRANK.
Please remove Elmer William FRANCK - b. 27 January 1900 Linton Township, Allamakee County,Iowa and d. 2 November 1928 Monona, Clayton County, Iowa NOTE: The spelling of the surname is NOT the same. Plus my grandfather died 2 years before this baby was born.
Please remove Alice Berdeva (Owen) FRANCK, wife of the above Elmer William Franck, as the mother of Shirley Jane FRANK because she is NOT the mother of this baby. On the birth certificate signed by Alice B. Frank as the informant the address is Iowa City,Iowa. My grandmother NEVER lived in Iowa City. She lived with her two children and in-laws in Monona, Iowa.
I am a long time contributor to FamilySearch but feel that FamilySearch needs to remove inaccurate information about my grandparents Elmer William FRANCK and Alice Berdeva Owen. Thank you, Connie Ellis
"Similar Records" are just that: records that the hinting system thinks are similar enough to the current record that they may also be of interest. If they're wrong, just ignore them.0
But what happens when other people see it and keep attaching that person to people who are not her family? That is the problem!
When information is incorrect it should be deleted so it does not fat for other people. Similar records cause people to think that this is information that is part of that particular family.0
Have you considered the possibility that your grandmother did have a baby who died?
I looked at Shirley's profile, and I see that you've removed Alice and Elmer as her parents, leaving her stranded and parentless. That's the sort of situation that other people will want to fix -- probably by re-attaching your grandparents as her parents, since they're an essentially-perfect match to the death certificate. This is completely independent of what does or doesn't show up in that list of similar records.
I don't know anything much about Iowa, so I can't suggest research avenues, but at some point, someone is going to need to figure out whether Elmer the carpenter (on Shirley's birth certificate) is or is not the same person as Elmer the clerk (on his death certificate). It seems a doozy of a coincidence, if they're different men, since both they and their wives share the same names down to the middle initial, and they both lived in Monona.4
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In these circumstances, I agree with Julia that it is a good idea for the user (in this case yourself) to try to establish the true identity of the individual, rather than leaving her without parents. Here is the page which provides a link to her death certificate (see Search Results - shirley* frank • FamilySearch). The ID for her is GMMP-KZ4.
I have spent the last 2-3 weeks adding profiles for several individuals named John Reay, born in the 1830-40 period, and who lived in Cumberland, England. None of them is directly related to me, but I am doing this to avoid future confusion between these very similar looking individuals - two of whom even had parents named Robert and Hannah. Forgive me if you have already undertaken similar work in trying to identify the true parents of Shirley Jane Frank, but this is a really important issue here.
On the point of "Similar records" (or "Possible Duplicates"), of course these can be taken as literally applying to the individual of whose page they appear, but the careless user who is likely to do that will easily find other ways of incorrectly connecting parents of similar looking identity to children who were not theirs. It is reasonable enough for FamilySearch to produce such suggestions - which can then be either accepted or discounted.3
Like Paul, I do quite a bit of research on families that are NOT mine to attach records to the correct people rather than have them attached to someone of a similar name. Whenever I have to detach a source, I try to find to the right profile for it and leave the tree better than I found it.1
She was in Iowa City because there has been a hospital there since 1873 (wikipedia)
She gave her dead husband's name because.... what was she supposed to say?
The name says Frank because the person filling out the form spelled it the way they heard it.
Perhaps arrange for extra flowers on memorial day even if she was not your aunt and consider reattaching the unfortunate girl to her mother. She suffered for 16 days before she died. what mother wouldn't think of that every day?
The record also states that she had 2 children living and one that died -and there are 2 previous children listed on her profile1
moderator note - comments were edited due to violations of the Code of Conduct.0
Similar problem, but different families involved. Started out by trying to extend a relative branch. Then found someone had put the same 4 people across 5 generations, so that problems like "child is father to the parent & child born before mother's birth, etc result. Can't delete this mess, since only FS staffers can manually override computer codes... Here is a sample of what GIGO (garbage in, garbage out) results !! --
The interloper seems to be MARY BOLKEY 24RC-9KC
Kaythegardener -- ok to send me emails at my listed connection.0
Hi, you have a "looping Pedigree"
John Turnovec https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/L1JN-V4T is both father and son of Mary ''Josie'' Janousek https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/GDD3-Y88
You can fix this yourself by clicking the edit pencil by Mary’s name where she is listed as John’s daughter.1
You are correct that there is also an error with
Mary Bolkey https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/24RC-9KC
but there is a marriage source showing her name as mother of
Joseph Turnovec Jr https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/LJVZ-WCK
However her birth and death dates are a match for her granddaughter
MARY JOSEPHINE TURNOVEC https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/G29C-XQM
It seems that a user actually "hijacked" a record that was originally Mary Josephine Turnovec with correct relationships and sources and changed her name to Mary Bolkey.
A fix is to restore the original name and relationships and create a new Mary Bolkey or a true match for her in Family Tree.1