Can anyone tell me the best way to link an ancestry.com source to famlysearch
I have several source documents that I have found on ancestry.com I want to put on famlysearch, can somene show me step by step how to do this. . Also what do I put in the web link box, as I asume that most web links will overtime change or should I just upload a picture of the document. I want to prevent the need for people to have to create an account on ancestry to see the picture or force them to sign in to it when "The Man" asks for username and password to see it. I want to make it as accessible as possible.
Ok this is probably 3 or 4 questions. Sorry and thank you for your continued patience.
Regards
I'm including one typical document as an example.
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The library version of Ancestry does not offer the share option, unfortunately.
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There is also a browser add-on, RecordSeek, available for most browsers. It will help build a source for FamilySearch from most outside sources, including Ancestry.
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I think a few of the comments about Ancestry share option will still leave you in a position where you have pointed where the source is but FamilySearch users without an ancestry account wont see the actual source. I agree with ColinM0288 , download the image or record to your PC or device then upload it as an attached image using the add memory source . Too many of our Family Search records now quote Ancestry or Gedcom as a source. That isnt a source if it's not available to other FamilySearch users to see.
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Not having an Ancestry account currently, I have no idea where they've put it, but I do know that for most of their records, they offer a "share" link that anyone can use. The image resolution tends to be, um, practically nonexistent, though, so a saved image may be more useful, if the the terms of use allow it. (I don't even try to pretend to any legal knowledge.)
There are several ways to create an "outside" source citation in FamilySearch's Family Tree. I'll explain the method that starts from a profile page, since it's the one I use most often.
Go to the profile of the person you want to attach the new source to, and go to the Sources tab.
Click "Add Source" and choose either of the first two options ("Add New Source" or "Add New Memory Source"). These actually bring up exactly the same popup, just with a different radio button pre-selected -- but you can freely change that selection. Choosing the "Memory" radio button makes the upload/select buttons available, while the "Web page URL" button gives you a field for the URL.
Interesting fact: the only required field on the source-creation popup is the title. Everything else is optional. Yes, you can create a source that has neither a URL nor an image.
I usually write up my own text for the citation, using the waypoints or such that would allow me to find the record on the website again, but most websites (Ancestry included) will auto-generate a citation for you somewhere/somehow, which you can then copy-and-paste into the Citation field of the popup.
I usually use the Notes/Description field for transcriptions or translations, and I almost never use the Reason box.
Oh, and I ignore the "Event Date" label on the date field at the top: that's simply the sort-by date for the Sources list (if you don't use the "custom" sort), and doesn't necessarily have anything to do with any events.
If the record mentions multiple people, make sure the "Add Source to My Source Box" checkbox is checked. This will allow you to attach an instance of the same source to the profiles for everyone in the record, and if you later notice a typo, you'll only need to fix it once -- all of the instances of that source will be corrected, regardless of where you were when you noticed it. (This is one of my favorite features on FS.)
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Ancestry has a share function. This will generate a link to the source or image that anyone with or without an Ancestry account can see. When you click add source in FamilySearch, select new source and put the url in the web link box. Fill out all other options appropriately.
For an example, go to Marie Pedersdatter, KCBD-HC7, go to her sources, and look at the 1919 Death Certificate source. That is the proper way to do it.
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As @Julia Szent-Györgyi mentioned I always use the Ancestry Share option, indicated by a curved arrow on most records or images.
BUT - Ancestry had maintenance last week, and the Share option is not working quite as well as it did. I've reported to Ancestry, but that doesn't always do any good.
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Thank you all once again, I will have to go over what you have said slowly to get the full gist of it. My library has a library version acestry.com access. It free to anyone with a library card. NICE.
I didn't even know about this nor did I know that there are Family Research Centers scattered around the country in specific Church of Latter Day Saint buildings. Someone told me that and I did research on that and then popped up that my library has an account too. Wow. All this information just siting there for free.
Julia Szent-Györgyi mentioned that they don't even begin to understand the legality of all the passing of info. Yes funny, frankly it's my family info, shouldnt I be charging them Ha ha.
Thanks again.
Fantasic.
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mmm well I knew that there would be some degraded options. None the less I usually download or screen capture the sources. And so far, while time consuming in t he end gets me what I need.
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ohhh. Interesting.
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@ColinM0288 From your library version of Ancestry, the easiest option is to "Send your find home" option:
And, as long as you access those records, you can see them again - download another copy, if needed.
@ColGilbert that's why we've been recommending the Share option from Ancestry. Those without a paid account can view the record. Previously, the Shared record could be accessed by anyone. The latest change is - for now - requiring at least a free Ancestry account. I'm hopeful that will revert, but the record is accessible easily. A free account only requires an email address and password. I always have a free account, with a separate email, although I have a paid subscription. That way, I can see what others may or may not be able to see, when I share or try to help.
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Yes thanks.
Yes I want it to be available without being hassled by nag screen. So I go to a lot of work to put up my own downloads and pictures etc. I worry that one day FamilySearch may go that way $$ No matter what people say today, 10 years down the road what happens, views, policies beliefs change over time. I know why CLDS does it, but church attendance is going down and when things cost a lot of money ideas change.
Anyway cant worry about that I suppose.
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The best way is to connect FS with Ancestry by clicking the FS button at the top of the Ancestry profile page. Then you can click the FS button again, compare the pages, and put all the Ancestry sources on FS, and all the FS sources on Ancestry. Easy as pie.
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Only for LDS members.
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Good information here. I've bookmarked it to refer back to next time I need to add a source from Ancestry.
However, there a couple of comments that I feel need to be addressed.
Too many of our Family Search records now quote Ancestry or Gedcom as a source. That isn't a source if it's not available to other FamilySearch users to see.
There are always going to be sources that are not online, that cannot be posted in Family Tree for some reason, and that other users are not going to be able to access easily. That is true for whatever type of research one might be involved in. If someone travels to some a distant country to personally visit an archive, is not allowed to take any photos of a document, is only allowed to take a partial summary of information, and adds this as a source to Family Tree, it is still a source. Just because no one else can see it without taking the same journey, that does not invalidate the document as a source.
The same is true for any online source that is hidden behind a paywall. Not wanting to pay for access to see it, also does not make that not a source. Sometimes we do just have to trust that other researchers actually are doing a good job, accept that they saw the source, and assume they took information from it correctly.
There have been problems in Family Tree, discussed on these boards, of people detaching sources from Family Tree with the reason "I can't access this source." That is a terrible reason for detaching a source and should never be done.
Regarding GEDCOM files, this is not the place to discuss all the problems with them over again, but one thing to be clear about is that the GEDCOM file import process does not bring in any sources that may be in the user doing the import's files. It is the responsibility of the user doing the import to add sources for the information the user imports. It is a shame that too many users don't bother. That notation seen on records that says "My GEDCOM file" is not a source and was never meant to be a source. It is just an automatically added note that the import process adds to indicate that the record was created by the import. The user importing the records has no control over it.
....that they don't even begin to understand the legality of all the passing of info. Yes funny, frankly it's my family info, shouldn't I be charging them Ha ha.
Storing, maintaining, and preserving records has got to be expensive. And when you really think about it, what state or national government really needs to know who got married in 1820? In the US, medical facilities can shred all records about a patient, depending on state laws, ten years after the last time that patient was seen. And they do. What if nations had taken a similar approach to vital records and just shredded everything after 110 years? Likewise, computer purchasing, programming, and storage are expensive. What if Ancestry went bankrupt and just turned off their main power switch? Paying for access whether through taxes or subscription fees is vital to keep those resources available. The various complexities of copyright laws are also there to preserve income streams that allow those resources to be available. We should be grateful that it actually costs so little to be able to access so much information.
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Thanks for your comments on my comments.
I'm new to this but generally agree with what I understand you have said. People are always frustrated when they hit paywalls. Joking that its my info and should be free is really a joke. I understand things must be maintained. I think its more out of frustration that there are so many "touch points" I go to one place then another then another. Each wanting to charge. And it slows you down from your excited search even if you did pay, then you have to log in all the time. Site after site. Listen I have a 1 inch high wad of cards with passwords on them. And of course there is the tantalizing "We found a relative all you need to do is shell out a little money and we will show you" Which turns out to not be true. And the costs per month are steep in some cases, (I'm recalling from memory. ) anyway whining about it will not help.
However I'm lucky, My library has Ancestry account free to use. I wish they had they fold account as Id like to see some docs there. Also you can go to some Mormon buildings and they have various genealogy accounts for free. So there are ways around paying if your cheap.... like me or really want to get to the bottom of things. (I don't live anywhere near Utah). Ps I should also mention this site and community. Seems like a friendly helpfull bunch.
Regards
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