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Marcelo Carignano
Marcelo Carignano ✭
March 10 edited March 11 in Search

Hello,

is there a way to trace back an image to its source catalog from the image name?

For example, I have an image file with the name TH-909-64440-50316-32.jpg and I can't find anymore the catalog it belongs, from where I would like to see other documents.

Thank you,

Marcelo.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 11 Answer ✓

    In the early days of the digitization of microfilm, each record had a name, but it did not follow that format. Now, all downloaded records have the same filename, as part of the effort to slow efforts to download ALL records and post them to other sites.

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 11 Answer ✓

    @Marcelo Carignano, FS has several different URL schemes in concurrent use. I have no idea how/why they're chosen, but one of them is human-parseable: it uses the DGS (or digital image group) number and can (optionally) include the specific image number (minus one, because it starts counting with zero instead of one). For example, film 7959977 image 1821 is https://www.familysearch.org/search/film/007959977?i=1820 .

    I very seldom save images from FS, so I don't know what scheme is used for the automatically-generated file name, but my suggestion going forward is to edit it to use an "address" that you can re-create more easily, such as the film and image number.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 10

    What's the subject/place/time? You'll probably do better by searching either the catalog or the image search for similar records.

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  • Gordon Collett
    Gordon Collett ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 10

    Exactly where are you seeing this? It not a type of file name I've run into before on FamilySearch but then it is a big place and there are a lot of areas to don't typically get into. Or is this a record image that you downloaded and that is the file name it ended up with? If it is a image file you now have on your computer, you may have to post it here and see if anyone happens to recognize what it is and where it could be from.

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  • Marcelo Carignano
    Marcelo Carignano ✭
    March 11

    It is a birth certificate from Villafranca Piemonte, 1845. I was just wondering if there is a logic in the naming of the images, which I think it would make sense.

    Thank you

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  • Marcelo Carignano
    Marcelo Carignano ✭
    March 11

    Thank you. I finally found again the record I was interested in. I noticed that the image collection I was looking has no Archival Reference Number and then I don't know how to record that collection just for myself. There are at least five with the same description: 'Turin, Turin, Piedmont, Italy, 1845, Baptism Records, Death Records, Marriage Records"

    Is it that they are not indexed?

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 11 edited March 11

    As I mentioned, images when downloaded from FamilySearch no longer have a specific name. Every image, as downloaded, has the same name record-image_.jpg designed to slow down those who tried to download every record.

    The old format was record-image_3Q9M-CS7W-MSM7-H.jpg with a different group of letters/numbers for every image downloaded. Yours may have been downloaded from another website - perhaps Antenati? There are many records that are available on more than one website.

    In any case, I'm glad you found the record.

    When a record set is indexed, there is a suggested citation for each image. There is generally also a suggested citation for the entire record set on the landing page of the record set. This one is for Torino Civil Registration and it could easily be adapted for Torino baptismal records:

    image.png


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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 11

    @Marcelo Carignano I stand corrected. That naming format comes from the URL when using the Image Search. But, the image doesn't download with that name. It is only visible in the URL.

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  • Marcelo Carignano
    Marcelo Carignano ✭
    March 11

    It is quite confusing. If I download from the URL I saved yesterday:

    url

    https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS8V-M9RY-W

    it comes as image-record_-xxx.jpg

    But If I do it entering the catalog from here:

    https://www.familysearch.org/records/images/search-results?page=1&place=5946555&endDate=1845&startDate=1845

    the name has the other format (TH-909...)

    The problem is that there are five set of images with the same labeling and it is hard to locate the image again because there is no specific reference for it. In this case my image is the one in the catalog with 2385 images, and it is the image number 1821.

    Just now I realize that is Film #007959977 image 1821. !!

    Thank you

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