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Ireland Census 1901 , 1911

Agnes E Schaalje
Agnes E Schaalje ✭
January 26, 2023 edited September 30, 2024 in Search

Parts of the 1901 and 1911 Census of Ireland have been incorrectly indexed. Places in County Down have been indexed as County Offaly. See M5KL-FHW Margaret Clements. I have manually changed her husband, Robert Wilson, but that is very time consuming doing it one at a time. One needs to look at Form N of the census for mote information on the place. As it stands in Family Search, one could end up going on a wild goose search for one’s ancestors in the wrong county.

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  • Paul W
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    January 26, 2023 edited January 26, 2023

    @Agnes E Schaalje

    This has happened as part of FamilySearch's decision to use a computer to standardise placenames, which has resulted in countless errors of this kind - involving placenames worldwide.

    If noticed by a moderator this example will be added to a very long list of errors to be fixed, although there is no timescale and it is unlikely to be corrected any time soon. So, yes, the correct placename / location can be noted, but the record cannot even be edited at present (you will notice the "EDIT" button on the record in greyed-out).

    You are likely aware this (1911 census) source is currently attached (presumably wrongly) to Margaret Clements, instead of Margaret Jane Robinson. I guess you know how to correct this (by clicking on Review Attachments, then Detach and (re)attach it to the correct ID).

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 26, 2023

    This is not an indexing error, but an auto-standardization error.

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q5BL-J6T2

    Notice that there are two event places in the index. The one marked "(Original)" is what was actually indexed: "Hampton Park, Ormeau, Down, Ireland". The other one ("Down, County Offaly, Ireland") is what the automated process picked from the database to go with the indexed text.

    FamilySearch continues to expect to fix these errors based on individual reports like this in the Community. Given that the problem affects quite literally millions of records, I don't expect to see a noticeable improvement within this decade, unless they radically change approaches.

    In the meantime, you can use the correct location in Family Tree, add a note to the citations about the error, and not take anything at face value that FS's indexed records database says about "where".

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  • Agnes E Schaalje
    Agnes E Schaalje ✭
    January 26, 2023

    I’m having a little chuckle here. I am 83 years old and don’t expect to be around for another decade😋

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  • Scott C. Richards
    Scott C. Richards ✭
    July 17, 2023

    Similar issue in the England and Wales 1911 census in Monmouthshire, Wales - see William Eli Thomas, GNSB-SYV. This area is mistakenly listed as being in Castle, Northumberland, England, although it is obviously in Oldcastle, Monmouthshire, Wales. I have corrected the location for this family, but I am concerned that every other family in this village has the wrong location listed. Is there a particular place to report these issues other than here?

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  • Maile L
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    July 31, 2023

    @N Tychonievich another auto-standardization error https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7P9-4WF

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 1, 2023

    @Maile L the auto-standardization affects a large percentage of Irish records. An Irish townland is the equivalent of a street. Just as every town in the USA has a "Main St" there are many townlands with the same name throughout Ireland. The algorithm obviously was not designed to cope.

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  • N Tychonievich
    N Tychonievich ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 1, 2023

    @Maile L Thank you. I'll send it up.

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