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Is it possible to see an original record that was extracted by automated process?

Humberto Abreu
Humberto Abreu ✭
September 17, 2022 edited July 27, 2024 in Search

I found this record extracted by an automated process and was wondering if it was possible to view the original image https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6DKR-5J4N I have an ancestor named Marcelino Ysidoro or Ysidoro Marcelino from Matanzas, Cuba. This record shows a Ysidoro Marcelina (male) so if that is not a last name it is is likely Marcelino and there is a Candelaria Abreu on the page, along with some single name (just first or last name) entries which makes me wonder if the name was extracted from a baptism certificate which often has parents, grandparents and other names on the record. A long shot but location is right, the year is close enough to my ancestor's birth year to make a look at the original image worthwhile.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 17, 2022 Answer ✓

    @Humberto Abreu The link I supplied above has color digital images of baptisms from the Catedral de San Carlos Borromeo, Matanzas, Matanzas, Cuba in the time period of your ancestor.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 18, 2022 edited September 18, 2022 Answer ✓
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    @Humberto Abreu

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 18, 2022 edited September 18, 2022 Answer ✓

    @Humberto Abreu Trying again. The images on the site cannot be downloaded. The record for Candelaria Abreu starts at the bottom of one page and finishes at the top of the next.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 18, 2022 Answer ✓

    A link to the specific register, covering 1884-1887: https://archive.slavesocieties.org/volume?id=22614

    There are no links to the individual pages. The index begins on Image 417 of 442 images.

    The record for Candelaria Abreu is on Image 167 of 442 (page 163 stamped in the upper right corner).

    Hope this helps.

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  • PMLynch
    PMLynch ✭✭✭
    September 17, 2022

    Thank you for your enquiry. You can look up the original document at your local family history centre. If one is not near by then use the familysearch look up service at familysearch.org/en/family-history-library/record-lookup-service.

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  • Gail Swihart Watson
    Gail Swihart Watson ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 17, 2022

    Humberto Abreu I'm not sure what time period you are researching, but if you are researching during the colonial period of Cuba, which is essentially before the 1860s, you can likely find records in Spanish and Hapsburg collections. If you already know this, I didn't mean to insult you. I find many people don't think there is an overlap of genealogy and history.

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 17, 2022 edited September 17, 2022

    The catalog names Vanderbilt University as the "author" of those records, and interestingly doesn't have any access indicators -- no camera, no film reel, nothing.

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    I'd be interested in seeing what @PMLynch sees in the catalog, and am curious whether the Family History Library's (not FamilySearch's) Lookup Service can actually access these images or not.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 17, 2022 edited September 17, 2022

    Sometimes, when there is no reel/camera/key icon, it is an indicator of newly acquired records that have been imported. Certainly, Vanderbilt has digitized many records from the Spanish Territories, including Florida before it became a state. I have some wonderful examples from their collection for my family from the early 1800s.

    Some of those Vanderbilt records are online on other sites.

    Edit to add: Some of the Cuban records can be seen here: https://www.slavesocieties.info/cuba

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  • Humberto Abreu
    Humberto Abreu ✭
    September 17, 2022

    Thanks everyone. I appreciate the answers. I will see if there are microfiche records at my local family history center for this extraction.

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  • Humberto Abreu
    Humberto Abreu ✭
    September 18, 2022

    Thank you very much for your above and beyond helpfulness. I really appreciate it. I apologize for not answering sooner but was out.

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