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FLQR
FLQR ✭
August 17, 2022 edited August 20, 2022 in Family Tree

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Walter Edward Griesheimer18 November 1880 – 7 December 1929 • LY41-NCZ

On the Sources page

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/LY41-NCZ

item: Walter E. Griesheimer, "Ohio, County Marriages, 1789-2013"

with reference to https:// familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X8W9-B7M (Link deliberately broken here since pasting the full link fails)

shows 404 - Record not found.

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  • FLQR
    FLQR ✭
    August 17, 2022


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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 17, 2022 edited August 17, 2022

    @FLQR the marriage record opens for me without issue. A double-wide book, with 4 marriages, 2 per page.

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Z8WV-73ZM

    image.png


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  • Gail Swihart Watson
    Gail Swihart Watson ✭✭✭✭
    August 17, 2022

    I have seen this before. If you go to the catalog to look up Ohio, County Marriages, 1789-2013 and click on the link for the collection, which is this, https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1614804, you will get a collection with a different title: Ohio, County Marriages, 1789-2016. In other words, they have added to the collection and in the process changed the URL. The url above is not the one found in your 404 error source, if you notice. And by the way, you are good to go. The new link has already been sourced in your person. It is the source 3 sources above with the year 1903. I would delete the source that doesn't work.


    This is happening more and more. I have corrected source urls several times.

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  • Gail Swihart Watson
    Gail Swihart Watson ✭✭✭✭
    August 17, 2022 edited August 17, 2022

    Áine Ní Donnghaile It does not work for me, see image. You are accessing the source with the updated url, 1789-2016, not the old source.

    Screenshot 2022-08-17 170239.png


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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 18, 2022

    I accessed directly from the source URL attached to the PID, @Gail Swihart Watson.

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  • Gail Swihart Watson
    Gail Swihart Watson ✭✭✭✭
    August 18, 2022 edited August 18, 2022

    Áine Ní Donnghaile No, I can tell from your screen shot you accessed this source, the new url:

    2016.png

    Which works, (it is the new link)


    But not this one below, all the way at the bottom, and doesn't work. It is the old url. Try it.

    2013.png

    It doesn't work.

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 19, 2022 edited August 19, 2022

    Just because the URL in my Firefox window is not the same as displayed, that does NOT mean that I did anything other than click through the URL from the PID.

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  • Gail Swihart Watson
    Gail Swihart Watson ✭✭✭✭
    August 19, 2022

    Áine Ní Donnghaile You are completely missing the point here. It is not about what you did or didn't do. FamiySearch does (or allows) something very annoying to happen. A collection exists, and many people will attach records from that source to a person. In our case the collection used to be called "Ohio, County Marriages, 1789-2013." Then at some point, the owner of the collection releases more records to it and the collection title may be changed (as in our case to "Ohio, County Marriages, 1789-2016."). I have also seen collections reorganized into different sub collections. Now the frustrating thing happens which I have seen and corrected multiple times. The old links people have used in the sources stop working and give a 404 error. Most people don't understand they have to find and reattach the source with its new url to make it work. I don't think people should have to do that. There should be a service where old links are redirected to or substituted with new links when it is FAMILYSEARCH which causes the broken links.

    I hope this makes it more clear.

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