Family Tree differs from my parents/family
When I sign into Family Search using my Church ID, I have a different family tree than my parents, and it starts with *my name* (ChurchID#a), but on my parent's accounts, I am listed as *my name* (ChurchID#b). I don't know why this is or how to fix it. Can anyone please help me? I don't know if this is due to some past action I made years ago and don't remember or if it's something else.
Thank you tons
Answers
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FYI
Welcome to the "Community.FamilySearch" Forum.
I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...
Just in passing ...
Short Answer: Because you are "Living".
As, you are STILL "Living", OTHER Users/Patrons; even, IMMEDIATE Family members, ONLY 'see' a ( "Living") DUPLICATE of you, WITH a DIFFRENT 'FamilySearch Person Identifier" (PID).
The "Changed" occurred, in "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', back in 2014, with the implementation, of "Private Spaces".
The REASON, for such, was for the "Privacy", of "Living" People.
I hope, that this may help/assist, somewhat.
Brett
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FYI
Furthermore ...
Here an old 'standby' of mine, that I have previously proffered on occasion ...
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Most new (and, some old) Users/Patrons, DO NOT, understand, the basic 'nature' and 'premise', of the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', when they join in.
Please let me explain ...
[ And, please bear with me; as, I am VERY 'Verbose' ... that is my 'style' ... ]
We do not have our OWN "Tree", in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.
We ONLY have "Branches" (ie. Ancestral" lines), that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.
The "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', is NOT like 'On-Line' "Websites" (eg. "Ancestry_com"; or "MyHeritage_com"; or, the like); and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes (eg, the OLD, now no longer supported, "PAF"; or, "Ancestral Quest"; or, the like).
We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees', in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', like other 'On-Line' "Websites"; and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes.
We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/persons, in "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.
And, most importantly ...
We DO NOT even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, Our OWN "Deceased" Ancestors/Family/Relatives, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.
The "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why any "Registered" User/Patron can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.
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And ...
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You can certainly "Merge"/"Combine" any "Deceased" individual/person, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', with another "Deceased" individual/person, in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', regardless of who the User/Patron was, that initially created those "Deceased" individuals/persons; as, they DO NOT reside with the User/Patron, who initially created them - they are "Public".
In fact, you can ONLY 'see' "Deceased" individuals/persons, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'; except, with this 'rider', that you can ALSO only see "Living" individual/person, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', that YOU created; as, they reside in your "Private Spaces".
No other User/Patron, can 'see' ANY "Living" individuals/persons, that were created by another User/Patron; as, they ONLY reside in the "Private Spaces", of the User/Patron who created them.
We CANNOT even 'see', the ACTUAL Record, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', of our IMMEDIATE Family (eg. Spouse; Children; Parents; Siblings; ETC; Etc; etc), if they are "Living"; and, they have their own 'FamilySearch' Account.
Of course, you can create your "Living" Family members; and, record them in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'; but, they will ONLY be seen by you:
▬ You cannot "Share" them with any other User/Patron.
▬ You cannot "Merge"/'Combine" them, with any other "Living" individual/person, residing in the "Private Spaces", of another User//Patron.
There is CURRENTLY, no mechanism, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', for Users/Patrons, to "Share"; or, "give permission" to "Share", the "Living" individuals/persons, in their own "Private Spaces", with/between other/another User(s)/Patron(s).
There are a myriad of "Privacy" Laws, within the many various, Countries; and, Unions, throughout the World - it is a nightmare to negotiate.
The "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', is used in many, Countries; and, Unions, throughout the World; and, as such, must adhere to the myriad of "Privacy" Laws, throughout the World.
Hence, "Privacy" is one of the reasons that we cannot "Share" the "Living" individuals/persons in our own "Private Spaces" - it is NOT the ONLY reason; but, certainly has a bearing on the matter.
Another factor, is that such would have to be 'Coded'/'Programmed', into the Programme, that is the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.
'Yes', these "Living" individuals/persons, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', WILL, in fact, in many (most) cases will be "Duplicated" - unfortunately a necessary situation that currently cannot be avoided.
I know, that there are "Duplicates", of the "Living" ME - at least, one for my Wife and each of our Children, not to mention my other ("Living") extended Family members.
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Here are some "Knowledge Articles", in 'FamilySearch', in regard to "Private Spaces"; and, "Living" individuals/persons:
Who can see my living relatives in Family Tree?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/who-can-see-my-living-relatives-in-family-tree
How does Family Tree protect the privacy of living people?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/what-is-a-private-space-in-family-tree
What Family Tree features are available in my private space?
Can I share access to the living and confidential people that I added to Family Tree?
Can I transfer my Family Tree private space to another user?
I hope, that this may also help/assist, somewhat.
Brett
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Hello @BrynnBodily
Just adding to the information Brett has so well provided.
You need to add/create records for your living parents, grandparents, great parents (if they are still living) etc. When you get to your first direct ancestor that is deceased, you can link to the record for the ancestor which is already in the tree.
For example, lets say your mother is living, your mother's father is deceased but your mother's mother is still living.
You will need to create a record for your mother which only you can see because she is living. We don't want everyone in the world to see her details, so FamilySearch will only allow the records for living people to be viewed by the person who created the record for her.
In this example, your mother's father is deceased so you will be able to find a record for him in FamilySearch. You can link him to your tree by using the ID that your mother has for him.
In this example, your mother's mother is living, so you will need to add a record for her that only you can see. If your grandmother's parents are deceased, then you will be able to link into the record which your mother has for them.
Once you link into the first deceased ancestor, the rest of the Tree for deceased people will flow through.
These knowledge articles may also be useful to you -
https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/what-are-id-numbers-used-for-in-family-tree
https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/how-do-i-add-a-parent-in-family-tree
Please reach out if you need further help.
kind regards
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Thank you for your help. I forgot to mention that I do not see any of my ancestors in the tree. My siblings can see all of theirs, but I only see my parents, and my father's parents, no one else. I don't know how to make it so I can see all of my other anscetors in the tree.
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FYI
Just in passing
Please be aware; and, advised, that ...
You have to ADD, "Copies", of your, IMMEDIATE, "Living" Family members, into YOUR 'FamilySearch' Account.
And, 'Yes', they WILL be, "Living", DUPLIACTES, that is O.K.
You get, a SEPARATE (ie. a DIFFERENT; and, "Unique") 'FamilySearch Person Identifier' (PID), of them, than they have in THEIR 'FamilySearch' Account.
EACH member, of one's Family, WILL have a SEPARATE (ie. a DIFFERENT; and, "Unique") 'FamilySearch Person Identifier' (PID), for each "Living" Family member.
is. There WILL be numerous 'FamilySearch Person Identifiers' (PIDs), for each of one's "Living" Family members
As, I previously stated ...
I know, that there are "Duplicates", of the "Living" ME - at least, one for my Wife and each of our Children, not to mention my other ("Living") extended Family members.
Just my thoughts.
I hope, that this may help/assist, somewhat.
Brett
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