I think it's wrong for people to add names of someone who is deceased so early- like 1990's 2000's.

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I think it's wrong for people to add names of someone who is deceased so early- like 1990's 2000's. . For the fact that there are still siblings living, not to mention that the deceased children and families are being put on or out on Family Search without their knowledge. I've seen in trees on Family Search that's adding obituaries listing childrens names, simply because it's available during the search. It's unsafe, and people aren't aware their families are on this platform. People adding information like that isn't protecting the privacy that is supposed to be protected.. I can delete my tree, and Family search saves and distributes it to others. Personally, I don't want unknown people adding my relatives , but they do, and it's allowed. There should be a way to remove a deceased person whom died 4 years go, to prevent others from coming on the site and gathering information on living families of the deceased. There should be a restriction on the deceased time before being allowed to add... Removing a tree you start, does nothing to help prevent the identity theft, family names of children and living people who don't do research, or the living relatives . Rules need to be in place and re-enforced for privacy and family protection.
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Living people in the FamilySearch Family Tree (FSFT) can only be viewed by the person who created the profile. If a living person has been incorrectly marked as deceased (which means their details can be seen by anyone, and is thus a serious privacy breach), see this article: https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/how-do-i-change-the-status-from-deceased-to-living-in-family-tree
As for deceased people, the general rule worldwide is that deceased people have no privacy rights. I know it sounds harsh, but that is the reality.
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FYI
I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...
Just in passing ...
I, 'hear' what you are saying; and, understand where you are coming from ...
But ...
That Said ...
Firstly ...
Unfortunately ...
We ALL make MISTAKES ...
NONE of us are PERFECT ...
As, has been advised, by 'A van Helsdingen' ...
The mistake, of creating, an individual/person; as "Deceased", who, in fact, is STILL "Living", in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', CAN be CORRECTED.
Secondly ...
Plus ...
The way, that we "Connect"/"Link", DIRECTLY, to both, IMMEDIATE Family members; and, EXTENDED Family and Relatives, is to INCLUDE individuals/persons, whether they be either, "Deceased"; and/or, "Living".
As such ...
NOT having the ability, to include individuals/persons, who were RECNTLY "Deceased"; and/or, are "Living", would severely, WEAKEN; and, literally, render, the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', USELESS.
Thirdly ...
There are "Public Records" available, that include "Living" People (and, of course, the recently "Deceased").
Users/Patrons, NEED to take MORE "Care", how they use those "Public Records.
Finally ...
"Privacy", is paramount in 'FamilySearch'.
Here are a couple of "Knowledge Articles". in 'FamilySearch'.
How does Family Tree protect the privacy of living people?
https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/what-is-a-private-space-in-family-tree
And, ...
How does Family Tree determine whether a person is living or deceased?
Where, it states:
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FamilySearch considers a person to still be living if both of these situations apply:
- The person was born 110 or fewer years ago, married 95 or fewer years ago, or had a child born 95 or fewer years ago.
- The record contains no death information.
FamilySearch does not automatically mark an individual as deceased when the first rule no longer applies. Before adding Deceased to a record, see if you can verify the person's death and if you can provide a source.
Note: If you enter any text in the fields for death or burial, the system assumes the person is deceased.
Consider the standards below as you decide whether to mark an individual as Deceased:
- Verify the person's death, and provide a source.
- If you do not find information on a record for a person, such as a census record, do not assume the person is deceased. Until you find a death record, the person is considered living unless he or she was born more than 110 years ago or married more than 95 years ago.
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Unfortunately ...
Some, Users/Patrons, are either, not aware of that aforementioned "Standard"; or, choose to "Ignore" it.
'Food for thought'...
HOW, "Restrictive", should, the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch' be ...
I know, that this certainly does not help/assist; but, I hope, that this may provide you with, some additional, insight; and, perspective.
Brett
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Hi S Tolbert
A van Helsdingen's answer is very clear on this matter
I use death notices and obituaries as sources if I can, and think that if living relatives choose to put their names on display in newspaper obituaries and death notices for the entire public to see, they would definitely find it OK that these are on display as sources in any family history site (which would be a less dangerous place). Those who feel bad about adding a death notice or obituary with the names of living family members to sources, may edit the image so that these names do not show.
Also, by letting the profiles of dead people be accessible to all users is a plus for all genealogical research. This way we can help each other gather information about our family history.
Kindly
Anne-Kathrine Henriksen
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Anne-Katherine,
hard to be silent on this point.
will respectfully disagree with you on living family. Likely we will have to agree to disagree on the inclusion of living people in obituaries being posted to gen web sites.
No, family members do not always find it ok to see their obituary related listings show up in a gen platform whether it be Ancestry.com, Findagrave.com or Family Tree. Many of my family enjoy their privacy for various reasons. Many who write the obituary do for various reasons including the "scrap book" factor.
My experience when writing the obituary for my parent was emotional and did not include listing the family extended names, knowing what would happen within the week....the findagrave.com harvesters clicking away the next day actually as my parent's grave dirt still settling. So no, not all see the obit experience as you do.
Historically there is precedent for not using living individuals names, no matter the source, in gen platforms. I hope we can both agree on that truth?
respectfully~
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Obituaries that contain living people can be somewhat problematic. A couple of decades ago it was customary where I live to have someone sit at the home of the deceased's family during the funeral since there was a public notice in the newspaper. There were a few instances of the family coming back from the funeral to find their house had been robbed.
But having an obituary listed as a source on FamilySearch being a concern is kind of like "strain[ing] at a gnat, and swallow[ing] a camel." I really don't think anyone with ill intent would bother getting a FamilySearch account for the purpose of finding recent obituaries. If I go to Google and put in Obituary John 2022, the entire first page of search results are all obituaries from this year. I checked and all of them have the traditional long list of living survivors.
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@Gordon Collett I'm afraid I DID go through recent obituaries for the purpose of finding live people. I was encouraged by family to do so in order to confirm a family line. I knew the living and the deceased, who all had extremely common names. Finding the obit, seeing familiar names listed as children, and then finding the pot of gold (ie, deceased's parents) was what I was after. I had a second experience exactly the same, except the deceased had changed his name and no one knew. All the right live children (live at that time, anyway) were listed, but had an unfamiliar father's name. I could later find records to prove he had changed his name.
I wrote my mother's obit. I listed all her live children, grandchildren and great grandchildren. I put the obit in several places online and paid for 2 online newspapers. I understand obits are one of the most valuable pieces of genealogy evidence there is.
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I'm completely with you in your views on this issue. In fact, I go rather further in only adding names that belong to my grandparents' generation and back, regardless of whether they are living or deceased. Of course, on the "downside" this means I have no links within the tree to any of my ancestors.
My reasons for acting this way are twofold. Firstly, I feel I have to respect my cousins' feelings in not wishing to have their parents' details shown on Family Tree - as I would not wish this in regard to my parents. Secondly, whilst I appreciate there is already plenty of information on my family openly available (on the internet and otherwise), I don't want to add to any security concerns by personally adding certain details about my family.
However, I appreciate anybody is perfectly entitled to add IDs for my recently deceased relatives - as well as those who are still living. (I won't know about the latter, of course, as any "living" IDs will be in other users' private spaces.) In connection with this issue, I was initially quite shocked to see an ID for my (deceased) uncle - attached to the ID I had created for my maternal grandparents. Since then, another of his siblings has been added, and I guess the rest of the family will also appear before too long!
My point is that we have to respect the open nature of Family Tree and the fact that others may act in a way we choose not to. It must be particularly upsetting for many to see recently deceased children added, but don't most of us feel equally upset in visiting a cemetery and reading a headstone inscription of an individual who died as a child?
Even if we were not Family Tree users, we would know that such names will still continue to be added by others. Yes, this is an emotive issue but one over which we have no power because (as has been mentioned earlier) there are few, if any, countries around the world that have laws to protect privacy of the deceased.
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