New Zealand, Archives New Zealand, Passenger Lists, 1839-1973

StuartCretney

Hi, I want to browse these lists but cannot find how to bring up different sailings/arrivals for the same vessel in the same year. There are instructions here:

However, there is no item "4. Select Arrival Date in year selected in 1", for example; the display goes straight to a single arrival's passenger list. Can anyone shed light on this? Secondly, does anyone know what proportion of these lists are indexed? Many thanks.

MaureenE123

I am not connected with FamilySearch

The catalogue entry is https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/1828380 , the Collection URL is https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1609792 and the Wiki page is https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/New_Zealand,_Archives_New_Zealand,_Passenger_Lists_-_FamilySearch_Historical_Records

The catalogue entry appears to indicate that most/possibly all films have at least some of the records indexed. However, as far as I am aware, there is no way of finding out what proportion of the records of a film have been indexed, it could range from the whole film to very few.

I suspect the FamilySearch arrangement of records follows the original Archive arrangement of records, where there is probably no attempt to link voyages by ship name. Unfortunately I cannot access the records by the Collection URL as I get a message "An error has occurred. Please try again later".

Edit: Tried to change the bold type without success which appeared when I copied something

StuartCretney

Hi MaureenE123, I received an email from FamilySearch saying you'd sent a reply, but clicking on "Check it out" just leads to a "Comment Not Found, The page you were looking for could not be found." message. Can you send again? Many thanks. Stuart

MaureenE123

@StuartCretney Sorry, I had written a reply, I was editing it and the whole post disappeared, but I had not kept a copy before I posted it. I don't have the time to re-write it with the detail as before.

I am not connected with FamilySearch.

Some what briefly, from memory, I came to the conclusion based on the Catalogue record, that because of the way the record series seems to be structured, there is probably not much you can do about your problem. I felt the record structure wouldn't enable what you want without extra programming, which FamilySearch most likely would not be prepared to do. Whether I had written this in my reply, I cannot remember.

I looked at

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/1828380 catalogue record

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1609792 collection URL. I was actually unable to access the images through this link, I got an error message "come back later" or similar. This limited my response .

https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/New_Zealand,_Archives_New_Zealand,_Passenger_Lists_-_FamilySearch_Historical_Records Wiki page

The records all seem to be indexed for at least some of the images per film, but I believe no one can give you exact information.

Perhaps someone from FamilySearch will give you a different reply.

@Mark McLemore (Disappearing post)

StuartCretney

Hi Maureen123, thanks for taking the time earlier to draft and send another reply, after your first was eaten up by the system. I didn’t get a reply from FamilySearch. After looking through more examples, I’ve figured out that where a vessel had multiple sailings in one year the passenger lists were simply scanned altogether in one file. For example, the passenger lists for the 13 sailings of the Maheno from Auckland to Sydney during 1910 are here, in departure date order:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-61P9-V7T?wc=MP7Y-PYK%3A119238201%2C119045701%2C119125001&cc=1609792

I may have been deceived by the fact that for some routes few lists have survived, or there was only the odd one-off voyage. As to the proportion indexed, I think it’s quite high – but I guess if one knows the ship and approximate year, it’s still worth browsing the files to check nothing has been missed. Thanks again, Stuart.