How can I find my wife's 'famous relatives'?

kolonialkid · February 15

Hello,

Thanks,

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genthusiast · February 15

While your wife is logged in - go to Activities> All Activities> Famous Relatives:

https://www.familysearch.org/discovery/famousrelatives

Brett . · February 15

@kolonialkid

FYI

Welcome to the "Community.FamilySearch" Forum.

[ With what appears to be your first post ... ]

I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...

Just in passing ...

Further to what 'genthusiast' has already proffered ...

As an aside ...

As well as, Famous Relatives, in the Family History Activities, of Discovery, under Activities, in 'FamilySearch', there is ANOTHER place where you may be able to 'see' even more Famous Relatives ...

Just in case, you were not aware ...

IF, you have not already utilised such; THEN, I humbly suggest that you try ...

(BYU) RelativeFinder, which is one of a number of the, Third Party Applications, that are Certified to work with Family Tree of 'FamilySearch'.

BYU = Brigham Young University, in Provo, Utah, USA (ie. the Church University).

Specifically, from the Family History Technology Laboratory, of the Computer Science Department.

Provide, one's "Ancestral" Lines, in Family Tree of 'FamilySearch', are somewhat extensive ...

Then, using (BYU) RelativeFinder, one should be able to 'see' one's "Relationship" NOT only with, "Famous People"; and, many, "Others"; but, ALSO between, (1) one's self and a "Deceased" individual/person (if, there is one of course); and/or (2) two (x2) "Deceased" individuals/person (if, there is one of course); and/or, (3) one's self and a another "Living" User/Patron (if, there is one of course).

PLUS, one can ALSO "Print" the connections/links between them.

And, it is simple, just a matter of "Signing In", with the "Credentials" of one's 'FamilySearch' Account; accepting the "Conditions"; and, the "Connection" between, "FamilySearch' and (BYU) RelativeFinder; which, then becomes a "Partner" Account, that is "Connect" to 'FamilySearch'.

(BYU) RelativeFinder digs (pun intended) a lot DEEPER in Family Tree of 'FamilySearch', than 'FamilySearch' does.

Here is direct link to (BYU) RelativeFinder:

https://www.relativefinder.org/#/main

(BYU) RelativeFinder has MANY 'Bells and Whistles', that you might find useful.

Apart from "Famous People" and "Others" ...

(BYU) RelativeFinder has some interesting options ...

There is an option to see if there is a 'Connection' between yourself and a "Deceased" individual/person in Family Tree of 'FamilySearch'.

Relative Finder _ BYU _ Connect Yourself with a Deceased.jpg

There is an option to see if there is a 'Connection' between two (x2) "Deceased" individuals/person in Family Tree of 'FamilySearch'.

Relative Finder _ BYU _ Connect Two Deceased.jpg

There is an option to see if there is a 'Connection' between ("Living" - Users/Patrons) Friends in Family Tree of 'FamilySearch'.

Relative Finder _ BYU _ Connect with Friends.jpg

And ...

Masquerade

Explore relatives of a deceased person as if you were them by inputting their FamilySearch.org PID.

https://www.relativefinder.org/#/masquerade

Magic.

Just explore.

Enjoy.

Good Luck.

I hope. that this may also help/assist.

Brett

ps: Caveat - Please be aware, that NOT "All" Users/Patrons, may have success; but, hopefully, many will.

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kolonialkid · February 17

Genthusiast and Brett,

Thanks for your prompt replies but perhaps I asked the wrong question.

I have my family tree with my wife's name and ID number.

If I try to sign up my wife as an individual then she is given another ID number that is not the same as the number attached to my name.

So how can I find her 'Famous Relatives'?

Thanks for your patience,

David

genthusiast · February 17

The id numbers being different is normal - living persons under different accounts will have a different id. As far as the 'famous relatives' - you will need to login under your wife's account to view them (if her tree is connected to ancestors successfully already - there needs to be some connections back a few generations for the 'famous relatives' activity to have connections). Likewise with the RelativeFinder app Brett referred to (it needs the tree of the person looking for 'famous' connections). Your tree is not sufficient to connect to your wife's 'famous relatives' - the activity and RelativeFinder would show you your 'famous relations' when logged in as yourself.

Brett . · February 17

@kolonialkid

David

O.K., right ...

Short Answer: That is CORRECT.

You CANNOT use, the 'FamilySearch Person Identifier" (PID), of your Wife, from her 'FamilySearch' Account.

ONLY your Wife, can 'see' (and, access), that PID of her, from her 'FamilySearch' Account - you CANNOT.

As, your Wife is "Living", you HAVE to CREATE, a "Living" DUPLIACTE, of her, in your 'FamilySearch' Account.

And, ONLY you can 'see' (and, access), that PID of her, from YOUR 'FamilySearch' Account - she CANNOT.

So ...

That Said ...

And, just so that you understand ...

Here an old 'standby' of mine, that I have previously proffered on occasion ...

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Most new (and, some old) Users/Patrons, DO NOT, understand, the basic 'nature' and 'premise', of the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', when they join in.

Please let me explain ...

[ And, please bear with me; as, I am VERY 'Verbose' ... that is my 'style' ... ]

We do not have our OWN "Tree", in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.

We ONLY have "Branches" (ie. Ancestral" lines), that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.

The "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', is NOT like 'On-Line' "Websites" (eg. "Ancestry_com"; or "MyHeritage_com"; or, the like); and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes (eg, the OLD, now no longer supported, "PAF"; or, "Ancestral Quest"; or, the like).

We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees', in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', like other 'On-Line' "Websites"; and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes.

We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/persons, in "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.

And, most importantly ...

We DO NOT even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, Our OWN "Deceased" Ancestors/Family/Relatives, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.

The "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why any "Registered" User/Patron can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.

You can certainly "Merge"/"Combine" any "Deceased" individual/person, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', with another "Deceased" individual/person, in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', regardless of who the User/Patron was, that initially created those "Deceased" individuals/persons; as, they DO NOT reside with the User/Patron, who initially created them - they are "Public".

In fact, you can ONLY 'see' "Deceased" individuals/persons, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'; except, with this 'rider', that you can ALSO only see "Living" individual/person, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', that YOU created; as, they reside in your "Private Spaces".

No other User/Patron, can 'see' ANY "Living" individuals/persons, that were created by another User/Patron; as, they ONLY reside in the "Private Spaces", of the User/Patron who created them.

We CANNOT even 'see', the ACTUAL Record, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', of our IMMEDIATE Family (eg. Spouse; Children; Parents; Siblings; ETC; Etc; etc), if they are "Living"; and, they have their own 'FamilySearch' Account.

Of course, you can create your "Living" Family members; and, record them in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'; but, they will ONLY be seen by you:

▬ You cannot "Share" them with any other User/Patron.

▬ You cannot "Merge"/'Combine" them, with any other "Living" individual/person, residing in the "Private Spaces", of another User//Patron.

There is CURRENTLY, no mechanism, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', for Users/Patrons, to "Share"; or, "give permission" to "Share", the "Living" individuals/persons, in their own "Private Spaces", with/between other/another User(s)/Patron(s).

There are a myriad of "Privacy" Laws, within the many various, Countries; and, Unions, throughout the World - it is a nightmare to negotiate.

The "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', is used in many, Countries; and, Unions, throughout the World; and, as such, must adhere to the myriad of "Privacy" Laws, throughout the World.

Hence, "Privacy" is one of the reasons that we cannot "Share" the "Living" individuals/persons in our own "Private Spaces" - it is NOT the ONLY reason; but, certainly has a bearing on the matter.

Another factor, is that such would have to be 'Coded'/'Programmed', into the Programme, that is the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.

'Yes', these "Living" individuals/persons, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', WILL, in fact, in many (most) cases will be "Duplicated" - unfortunately a necessary situation that currently cannot be avoided.

I know, that there are "Duplicates", of the "Living" ME - at least, one for my Wife and each of our Children, not to mention my other ("Living") extended Family members.

Here are some "Knowledge Articles", in 'FamilySearch', in regard to "Private Spaces"; and, "Living" individuals/persons:

Who can see my living relatives in Family Tree?

https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/who-can-see-my-living-relatives-in-family-tree

How does Family Tree protect the privacy of living people?

https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/what-is-a-private-space-in-family-tree

What Family Tree features are available in my private space?

https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/family-tree-features-available-in-my-private-space

Can my living relatives share a Family Tree private space to work together?

https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/share-a-family-tree-private-space-with-family

Can I transfer my Family Tree private space to another user?

https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/transfer-my-family-tree-private-space-to-another-user

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