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I keep reading that "all" the FHL microfilms have been digitized

Willard Moore_2
Willard Moore_2 ✭
February 6, 2022 edited July 27, 2024 in Search

but many of them are not available on familysearch, for example film no. 1311195. I don't mean that they are only available at a family history center, I mean that there is no digital version at all. Why is that?

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  • MaureenE123
    MaureenE123 ✭✭✭✭✭
    February 6, 2022 Answer ✓

    I am not connected with FamilySearch

    The Catalog record for 1311195 is https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/273300

    The record description is "Records of births, marriages, deaths v. 3- 8(p.1-660) 1820-1933"

    The most likely reason is that these records are not available for privacy reasons because there are records up to 1933, and generally birth and baptism records within the last 100 years are not released. Currently FamilySearch does not split up digitised microfilms, but that may happen in the future. In any event, you would expect these records to become available in 2033 or 2034.

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  • A van Helsdingen
    A van Helsdingen ✭✭✭✭✭
    February 6, 2022

    It is true that all microfilms have been digitized. But not all digitized microfilms can be published due to privacy laws and lack of permission from record owners/custodians.

    The film you mentioned is digitized, as indicated by the presence of a Image Group Number (DGS).

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    February 6, 2022

    Further to Maureen's comment, there is a digital version of this film, clearly indicated in the catalog: it is digital image group 7730314.

    Many people -- including some FS employees -- make the assumption that "digitized" equals "online". Trouble is, this is false. Digitized just means that there are digital files corresponding to the film somewhere on FS's computers. Whenever possible, those files are put on a public server at FS, but when there are restricted images in the files, they cannot be made public. (Usually the restrictions are privacy-related, but there can be other, contractual reasons for a restriction.) FS simplifies its life by enforcing restrictions using an all-or-nothing approach: if there is a single restricted image in a digital image group, the entire group is restricted.

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    February 6, 2022

    @Willard Moore_2

    Willard

    Welcome to the "Community.FamilySearch" Forum, with what appears to be your first post.

    I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...

    [ And, I happen to be a Member of the Church ... ]

    Just in passing ...

    Further to what has already been proffered ...

    Just because, "All" FHL Films, have been "Digitized", DOES NOT, mean that ALL will be available 'On-Line' ...

    And, that even means, through a "Family History Centre" of the Church (or, an "Affiliate" Library) ...

    Here are some "Knowledge Articles", in 'FamilySearch':

    Why is no camera icon showing for a digitized microfilm in the catalog?

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/why-is-no-camera-icon-showing-for-a-digitized-microfilm-in-the-catalog

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/why-is-no-camera-icon-showing-for-a-digitized-microfilm-in-the-catalog

    Why are there access limitations on Historical Records?

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/why-are-there-access-restrictions-on-historical-records

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/why-are-there-access-restrictions-on-historical-records

    What are the image restrictions in Historical Records?

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/what-are-the-image-restrictions-in-historical-records

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/what-are-the-image-restrictions-in-historical-records

    I know, that this certainly does not help/assist; but, I hope, that this may provide you with, some additional, insight; and, perspective.

    Brett

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  • Anne959
    Anne959 ✭
    October 26, 2022

    I still don't see how you can read those tiny boxes on the microfilm. I've read where you can enlarge them, but it doesn't get much bigger. There are certain ones I've needed to look at, but if they are written in script, they are not readable. It's tough enough reading a whole document in script, going word by word. I really would like to use this resource, but I guess I don't know how to work for my particular documents. Almost all of the records from Tyrrell County North Carolina are only in Raleigh at the archives. The ones on Family Search are microfilms that I would love to read if I could.

    Thank you

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  • JBPurdie
    JBPurdie mod
    October 26, 2022

    @Anne959

    Have you checked to see if the film you want view is available at a Family History Centre near you.

    Is there a particular film you try to view.

    JBPurdie

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