I want to share memories with my children
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FamilySearch creates a new personal record for each new member that signs up. My personal record links to both of my parents, now deceased. I also have several children and would like to share many Memories that I have added to my own record with them. I have 2 problems with the so-strict privacy policy:
(1) I am forbidden from giving my children to link to my record or to even see my record and the Memories I have stored there;
(2) When I do eventually die, there is no way for anyone to update my personal record with a date and place of death, thereby making it publicly available. All of my info effectively becomes lost.
The easiest SOLUTION in my mind would be to add to my profile an ability to designate one or more people (by ID#) the right to see, link to and modify my personal record. It would be kind of a 'living will' or a pseudo 'power of attorney'. If I could, I would allow each of my children to connect to my personal record, see all of my information, link to my record as their parent, and eventually add a death date and place to my record.
Why would that be so difficult if I am expressly giving my permission?
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Gary
I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...
Just in passing ...
It MAY seem SIMPLE ...
But ...
That Said ...
Short Answer: It is NOT as EASY a most think ...
Here an old 'standby' of mine, that I have previously proffered on occasion ...
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Most new (and, some old) Users/Patrons, DO NOT understand the basic 'nature' and 'premise', of "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch', when they join in.
Please let me explain ...
[ And, please bear with me; as, I am VERY 'Verbose' ... that is my 'style' ... ]
We do not have our OWN "Tree", in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'.
We ONLY have "Branches" (ie. Ancestral" lines), that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is, "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'.
"Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch', is NOT like 'On-Line' "Websites" (eg. "Ancestry_com"; or "MyHeritage_com"; or, the like); and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes (eg, the OLD, now no longer supported, "PAF"; or, "Ancestral Quest"; or, the like).
We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees', in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch', like other 'On-Line' "Websites"; and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes.
We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/persons. in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'.
And, most importantly ...
We DO NOT even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, Our OWN "Deceased" Ancestors/Family/Relatives, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'.
"Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch', is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why any "Registered" User/Patron, can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'.
You can certainly "Merge"/"Combine" any "Deceased" individual/person, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch', with another "Deceased" individual/person, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch', regardless of who the User/Patron was, that initially created those "Deceased" individuals/persons; as, they DO NOT reside with the User/Patron, who initially created them - they are "Public".
In fact, you can ONLY see "Deceased" individuals/persons, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'; except, with this 'rider', that you can ALSO only see "Living" individual/person, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch' that YOU created; as, they reside in your "Private Spaces".
No other User/Patron can see ANY "Living" individuals/persons, that were created by another User/Patron; as, they ONLY reside in the "Private Spaces" of the User/Patron, who created them.
We CANNOT even see the ACTUAL Record, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch' of our IMMEDIATE Family (eg. Spouse; Children; Parents; Siblings; ETC; Etc; etc) if they are "Living"; and, they have their own 'FamilySearch' Account.
Of course, you can create your "Living" Family members; and, record them, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'; but, they will ONLY be seen by you:
▬ You cannot "Share" them with any other User/Patron.
▬ You cannot "Merge"/'Combine" them with any other "Living" individual/person residing in the "Private Spaces" of another User//Patron.
There is CURRENTLY no mechanism, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch' for Users/Patrons, to "Share"; or, "give permission" to "Share", the "Living" individuals/persons in their own "Private Spaces" with/between other/another User(s)/Patron(s).
There are a myriad of "Privacy" Laws, within the many various Countries and Unions, throughout the World - it is a nightmare to negotiate.
"Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch', is used in many Countries and Unions, throughout the World; and, as such, must adhere to the myriad of "Privacy" Laws, throughout the World.
Hence, "Privacy" is one of the reasons that we cannot "Share" the "Living" individuals/persons in our own "Private Spaces" - it is NOT the ONLY reason; but, certainly has a bearing on the matter.
Another factor is that such would have to be 'Coded'/'Programmed', into the Programme, that is "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'.
'Yes', these "Living" individuals/person, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch' WILL, in fact, in many (most) cases will be "Duplicated" - unfortunately a necessary situation that currently cannot be avoided.
I know, that there are "Duplicates", of the "Living" ME - at least, one for my Wife and each of our Children, not to mention my other ("Living") extended Family members.
Here are some "Knowledge Articles" in 'FamilySearch' in regard to "Private Spaces" and "Living" individuals/persons:
Who can see my living relatives in Family Tree?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/who-can-see-my-living-relatives-in-family-tree
How does Family Tree protect the privacy of living people?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/what-is-a-private-space-in-family-tree
What Family Tree features are available in my private space?
Can my living relatives share a Family Tree private space to work together?
https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/share-a-family-tree-private-space-with-family
Can I transfer my Family Tree private space to another user?
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Plus ...
'FamilySearch', has been 'grappling' with this; and, 'working' on this, for Years.
There DOES appear to be some progress ...
Especially, with the recent implementation, of the NEW "Family Groups".
Currently, the 'premise' of "Family Groups" is:
PRIMARILY: for the "Sharing" of "Temple" Work, for Users/Patrons who are Member of the Church; and,
SECONDARY: a form of "Group" 'Messaging' Tool, for ALL User/Patrons
There has been 'Talk', in this Forum, that has suggested, that "Family Groups" MAY later, include a 'component', to enable the "Sharing", of the "Living" individuals/persons, in our "Private Spaces", between members of the particular 'Group'; as, a "Family Group" is, in fact, a "Closed" PRIVATE 'Group', with somewhat of a 'Modicum', of "Privacy".
We can but live in hope ...
I know, that this certainly does not help/assist; but, I hope, that this may provide you with, some additional, insight; and, perspective.
Brett
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Hi Gary - Thanks for posting you concerns on Family Search community. These are very pertinent questions which are asked by others as well. Here is the current things you can do:
1) Your question here was about sharing memories with your children and others. There are ways to do that. I have attached articles explaining what you can do. In summary, you can share memories either singly or grouped in albums. When you share your memories, the recipients can view and download the memories. Here are the detailed instructions
2) Your question here is about what happens when you die. If the account holder is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, there is a reporting process that will mark the record of the individual as deceased. If the account holder is not a member of the church, there is no formal reporting mechanism and we rely on someone to report the death. That can be done here on the Family Search community and requires some proof of death. Once the record gets updated with the death date, it becomes public and every user can see the record. It retains all the memories that were attached prior to the death. I have attached some articles about this. Relative to your suggestion of allowing others to access your account. Even if that were possible, the account holder's record cannot be marked as deceased. The only way to have an account holder's record marked deceased is to report the death to Family Search as described above. Here are some articles.
Hope this answers some of your concerns. Please let us know if we can be of further assistance.
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