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Is it possible to merge a living person of different ID from other user?

ミカミ, トモコ
ミカミ, トモコ ✭
December 16, 2021 edited December 16, 2021 in Family Tree

I would like to merge my parents and myself currently registered with different IDs.

My parents and I each have the family search account. I added most of our ancestry info and then realized all three of us are registered with different IDs in each of our account. What happens in this situation is when my parents sing in to family search, they can't see any of the info I added. So I tried to merge them but it won't let me because they are the info of different account. I tried "merge by ID" but it only shows "back" button. I can never go forward. "Research Help" section has 0 result. How do I connect my ancestry info to my parents? Is it possible?

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  • Merge by ID
  • Duplicate
  • ID numbers for living people
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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    December 16, 2021 Answer ✓

    @ミカミ, トモコ

    Mikami, Tomoko

    Welcome to this "Community.FamilySearch" Forum.

    I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...

    Short Answer: 'No'.

    FIRSTLY ...

    Just my take ...

    When you are WITH another ("Living") User/Patron, be-it an IMMEDIATE Family member or not, looking at/in THEIR 'FamilySearch' Account, ...

    Even though you can 'see' that they have a particular 'FamilySearch Person Identifier' (PID) in THEIR 'FamilySearch' Account ...

    You, will NOT be able to 'see' that PID for the other User/Patrons in/through YOUR 'FamilySearch' Account ...

    NOR, will you be able to USE that PID for the other User/Patrons in/through YOUR 'FamilySearch' Account ...

    For ("Living") Users/Patrons of "Family Tree' of 'FamilySearch' (including yourself) their PID is, unique to them; and, can ONLY bee 'seen' by them, in THEIR 'FamilySearch' Account ... 

    "Living" Users/Patrons of "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' ARE just like, in fact, just the SAME as, "Living" individuals/persons, in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', that are recorded in our "Private Spaces", of our individual/personal 'FamilySearch' Accounts - they can ONLY be 'seen' by the User/Patron who created them; or, in case of a "Living" User/Patron, by them.

    As such ...

    For "Living" Users/Patrons, just like "Living" individuals/persons, we HAVE to "Create" a ("Living") DUPLIACTE of them in OUR own respective 'FamilySearch' Accounts, in other words within our respective "Ancestral" Lines in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.

    And ...

    That said ...

    'Yes' ... they WILL be DUPLIACTES ... but, that is O.K.; and, a necessary feature for "Privacy".

    Basically ...

    You and your ("Living") IMMEDIATE Family members (and, extended Family) have to "Build" a "Bridge" of the "Living" individuals/persons (As "Living" DUPLICATES) that connect/link you together, in your respective 'FamilySearch' Accounts ...

    Once, you; and, your ("Living") Family members (and, extended Family), have ALL "Built" that "Bridge", of the "Living" (individuals/persons), that connect/link you ALL together (As "Living" DUPLICATES); then, when you ALL come to your FIRST Common "Deceased" Ancestor, your "Ancestral" Lines will connect/link together into one ... 

    SECONDLY ...

    Here an old 'standby' of mine, that I have previously proffered on occasion ...

    Most new (and, some old) Users/Patrons DO NOT understand the basic 'nature' and 'premise' of "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', when they join in.

    Please let me explain ...

    [ And, please bear with me; as, I am VERY 'Verbose' ... that is my 'style' ... ]

    We do not have our OWN "Tree" in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.

    We ONLY have "Branches" (ie. Ancestral" lines), that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'.

    "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch' is NOT like 'On-Line' "Websites" (eg. "Ancestry_com"; or "MyHeritage_com"; or, the like); and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes (eg, the OLD, now no longer supported, "PAF"; or, "Ancestral Quest"; or, t,e like).

    We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees', in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch' like other 'On-Line' "Websites"; and/or, 'standalone' personal (computer) programmes.

    We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/persons, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'.

    And, most importantly ...

    We DO NOT even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, Our OWN "Deceased" Ancestors/Family/Relatives, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'.

    "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch' is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why any registered User/Patron can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'. 

    You can certainly "Merge"/"Combine" any "Deceased" individual/person, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch' with another "Deceased" individual/person, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch', regardless of who the User/Patron was that initially created those "Deceased" individuals/persons; as, they DO NOT reside with the User/Patron who initially created them - they are "Public".

    In fact, you can ONLY see "Deceased" individuals/persons, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'; except, with this 'rider', that you can ALSO only see "Living" individual/person, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch' that YOU created; as, they reside in your "Private Spaces".

    No other User/Patron can see ANY "Living" individuals/persons that were created by another User/Patron; as, they ONLY reside in the "Private Spaces" of the User/Patron who created them.

    We CANNOT even see the ACTUAL Record, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch' of our IMMEDIATE Family (eg. Spouse; Children; Parents; Siblings; ETC; Etc; etc) if they are "Living"; and, they have their own 'FamilySearch' Account.

    Of course, you can create your "Living" Family members; and, record them, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch'; but, they will ONLY be seen by you:

    ▬ You cannot "Share" them with any other User/Patron.

    ▬ You cannot "Merge"/'Combine" them with any other "Living" individual/person residing in the "Private Spaces" of another User//Patron.

    There is CURRENTLY no mechanism, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch' for Users/Patrons, to "Share"; or, "give permission" to "Share", the "Living" individuals/persons in their own "Private Spaces" with/between other/another User(s)/Patron(s).

    There are a myriad of "Privacy" Laws, within the many various, Countries; and, Unions, throughout the World - it is a nightmare to negotiate.

    "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch', is used in many, Countries; and, Unions, throughout the World; and, as such, must adhere to the myriad of "Privacy" Laws, throughout the World.

    Hence, "Privacy" is one of the reasons that we cannot "Share" the "Living" individuals/persons in our own "Private Spaces" - it is NOT the ONLY reason; but, certainly has a bearing on the matter.

    Another factor is that such would have to be 'Coded'/'Programmed' into the Programme that is, "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch'.

    'Yes', these "Living" individuals/person, in "Family Tree", of 'FamilySearch' WILL, in fact, in many (most) cases will be "Duplicated" - unfortunately a necessary situation that currently cannot be avoided.

    I know, that there are "Duplicates" of the "Living" ME - at least, one for my Wife and each of our Children, not to mention my other ("Living") extended Family members.

    Here are some "Knowledge Articles" in 'FamilySearch' in regard to "Private Spaces" and "Living" individuals/persons:

    Who can see my living relatives in Family Tree?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/who-can-see-my-living-relatives-in-family-tree

    How does Family Tree protect the privacy of living people?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/what-is-a-private-space-in-family-tree

    What Family Tree features are available in my private space?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/family-tree-features-available-in-my-private-space

    Can my living relatives share a Family Tree private space to work together?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/share-a-family-tree-private-space-with-family

    Can I transfer my Family Tree private space to another user?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/transfer-my-family-tree-private-space-to-another-user

    Here is a good place to start, with how things work in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch' (and, other programmes as well):

    Overview

    'FamilySearch'

    "Family Tree"

    https://www.familysearch.org/tree/overview

    Getting Started with Family History

    Here are the main things you need to know as you get started

    https://www.familysearch.org/home/etb_gettingstarted

    How to Use the Family Tree

    https://www.familysearch.org/blog/en/how-to-use-family-tree/

    What is The Family History Guide?

    https://media.familysearch.org/what-is-the-family-history-guide/

    The Family History Guide

    Introduction

    About The Family History Guide

    https://www.thefhguide.com/introduction.html

    The Family History Guide

    https://www.thefhguide.com/.

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    I hope, that this helps/assist, somewhat.

    Brett

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  • lookingfortheanswers
    lookingfortheanswers ✭✭✭
    December 16, 2021 Answer ✓

    You cannot merge records of living persons. Each user must enter all living individuals themselves then link to their families deceased ancestors. This is due to privacy concerns. There is an article in the FamilySearch Help Center that discusses this. Click on the link below and it will take you to the article.

    How does Family Tree protect the privacy of living people?

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/what-is-a-private-space-in-family-tree

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    December 16, 2021 Answer ✓

    @ミカミ, トモコ

    Mikami, Tomoko

    Correct.

    It certainly should, provided the "Living" People, in the different 'FamilySearch' Accounts; eventually, all connect/link up, together correctly.

    Brett

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  • ミカミ, トモコ
    ミカミ, トモコ ✭
    December 16, 2021

    Thank you two for the great answers. So I have to add the living persons info in our each account then it will connect to our family tree. I hope I understood correctly. I will work on it. Thank you!!

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