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DiannaBlake
DiannaBlake ✭
December 9, 2021 edited December 9, 2021 in Family Tree

I just added Douglas Stanley Gourley G8YX-7VX and the detail match to be the same with parents but when I went to go further it doesn't match parents to father are different so now I need to delete him and start again

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    December 9, 2021 Answer ✓

    G8YX-7VX is Simon Lion 1837-1906.

    G8YX-7VK is Douglas Stanley Gourley

    As long as no one else has edited or added to a profile you created, you can delete it. The change log shows that you are not the only contributor, and that the profile was created on October 25, 2021.

    https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/changelog/G8YX-7VK

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    December 13, 2021 Answer ✓

    @DiannaBlake

    Dianna

    Do you want me to fix, that "Merge"/"Combine" for Alexander William GOURLEY ( KJ4C-QV1 ) right now?

    Brett

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  • nanita g
    nanita g mod
    December 15, 2021 Answer ✓

    Hoal DiannaBlake ✭ Buenos dias

    En cuanto su pregunta. como eliminar un registro que no concuerda

    este articulo le servirá de gran ayuda

    https://www.familysearch.org/es/help/helpcenter/article/que-hago-con-los-registros-sugeridos-que-no-coinciden-en-el-arbol-familiar


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  • annewandering
    annewandering ✭✭✭✭✭
    December 15, 2021 Answer ✓

    To add sources from Ancestry is fairly simple! Follow these instructions. If you have any questions be sure to ask! https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/how-do-i-transfer-sources-between-ancestry-and-family-tree

    Steps

    1. Sign in to your Ancestry account.
    2. Click Trees.
    3. Click the tree from which you want to transfer sources.
    4. Click a deceased individual on the tree.
    5. On the Summary card, click Profile.
    6. In the upper right portion of the screen, click the FamilySearch green tree icon.
    7. To sign in to FamilySearch, click Sign In.
    8. If the Select match for [name] screen appears, you can connect the person or add the person to FamilySearch. See How do I connect a name on my tree on Ancestry.com to a person in Family Tree?.
    9. After you add or connect the individual, click the FamilySearch icon again. 
    10. Click Compare person on FamilySearch in the menu. 
    11. Scroll to the sources section. Sources on the right are from your Ancestry tree. Sources on the left are from FamilySearch.
    12. To transfer a source, click the box to the left of the source. 
    13. At the bottom of the screen, click Save Changes.


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  • CraigWArmstrong
    CraigWArmstrong mod
    December 15, 2021 Answer ✓

    @annewandering

    That method of transferring data from Ancestry to FamilySearch on works if you have a free account offered to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

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  • DiannaBlake
    DiannaBlake ✭
    December 9, 2021

    That is the problem when I added him another showed up his parents were the same I didn't check past his parents before connecting him to the other one but when I went to add the father of Alexander William Gourley KJ4C- QV1 is when I have noticed his parents are different and I have no idea how to fix the tree.

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  • Gordon Collett
    Gordon Collett ✭✭✭✭✭
    December 9, 2021 edited December 9, 2021

    Can you be more specific about what you did, what was wrong, and what you now need to reverse if what I explain below does not answer your question?

    Looking at the Change Log, I see that Douglas Stanley Gourley G8YX-7VK was created by Kevin last October and placed with his current parents.

    Then yesterday, you gave Douglas a wife, with marriage information, and two children.

    Have you now decided that your Douglas and Kevin's Douglas are two different people? If so, you need to reverse your additions and get Kevin's Douglas back to how Kevin left him.

    Here is how you do this. I would only do this on the website, not the mobile app. The mobile just does not give you the same overview or flexibility to deal with this type of thing in my opinion.

    1) Go to the Recents' menu and click on Add Unconnected Person.

    2) Create a new Douglas with the correct information for him. Copy his ID number.

    3) Now go to the profile page for Norma Irene Edwards GDZP-WD6 (it is really important to be working on the proper page now) and scroll down to the Family Members section.

    4) In the couple box, click on the edit relationship icon (the pencil and paper icon)

    Screen Shot 2021-12-09 at 6.53.58 AM.png

    5) In the fly-out panel that appears, click on Remove Or Replace next to Douglas' name:

    Screen Shot 2021-12-09 at 6.55.48 AM.png

    6) Click the check box to confirm you really know what you are doing then click Replace Person:

    Screen Shot 2021-12-09 at 6.56.58 AM.png

    As you can see on this panel, you will be replacing not only Douglas as Norma's husband, but also as the father for all their children at the same time.

    7) Choose By ID Number if it is not already on that tab. (You could have waited until here to create your new Douglas but often it is best not to try to do two things at the same time but rather completely create a person first, beyond what the initial add person screen allows, then replace the person.)

    Screen Shot 2021-12-09 at 7.00.12 AM.png

    8) Paste in the ID number for your Douglas, click next, finish off the process and you are done.

    Screen Shot 2021-12-09 at 7.16.32 AM.png

    This will get Kevin's Douglas back to being just a child with no other family, as Kevin created him, and your family of Douglas and Norma with their two children as you appear to have intended to have them, letting you work farther back on your Douglas's parents.

    (On a side note, terminology is pretty specific around here and using imprecise terms often leads to confusion. If I have understood your question correctly, I would have stated your initial question as, "I just added Douglas Stanley Gourley G8YX-7VK to a family ... now I need to remove him from the family and start again." We can delete relationships here, but we can only delete people we have added that no one else has ever edited.)

    If this answer is not at all what you needed to know, please explain the problem over again and someone will eventually get you the answer you need.

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  • DiannaBlake
    DiannaBlake ✭
    December 11, 2021

    I am unable to delete Douglas Stanley Gourley G8YX-7VK as I had merged him with Kevin's tree as they are the same person also Alexander William Gourley KJ4C-QV1 is the father, after merging and I was going to add Alexander's parents is when I noticed the problem his father is not David William Gourley KZXK-Mt4 added by Chadnephiolsen1. To delete would I have to go back to Norman Douglas Gourley GSVF-2BJ and start again with out merging to Kevin's tree. I have sent a message but not sure if I will get a reply. I hope this is clearer to understand the problem. Dianna

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  • Gordon Collett
    Gordon Collett ✭✭✭✭✭
    December 11, 2021

    You may just need to go to your local Family History Center and sit down with someone to sort this out. Terminology can get so confusing when people use the same words to mean different things. And to describe what is going on in Family Tree in just words is so hard. So first I will try and restate what I thing you are saying into what I think you mean.

    "I am unable to delete Douglas Stanley Gourley G8YX-7VK" - that is true because you did not create him. Kevin did. And there should never be a need to delete any real person from Family Tree. Do you really mean "I can't adjust his relationship to other people"? That is a different matter.

    "I had merged him with Kevin's tree." One thing I don't understand here. Looking at the Change Log for Douglas Stanley Gourley G8YX-7VK, there is not a single merge. There is no evidence that you merged two individual into a single profile. That is the only thing "merge" means in Family Tree. The other thing you need to realize that the term "Kevin's tree" is meaningless because Kevin doesn't have a tree, none of us do. There is just Family Tree. Do you really mean, "I used the version of Douglas Stanley Gourley G8YX-7VK that Kevin created to hook into my relatives?"

    "As they are the same person." So you do mean that there is only one Douglas Stanley Gourley G8YX-7VK born 1919 in Birregurra and that that one Douglas was married to Norma Edwards and his parents really are Alexander Eilliam Gourley and Emily Melina Maunder? If that is the case then I really don't understand the problem here.

    Moving on to Alexander William Gourley KJ4C-QV1, here also, you have not done any merging in the Family Tree meaning of the word. Many people have worked on his record over the years. Most recently Kevin did some editing. I don't see that you have touched Alexander's record at all.

    I do see that Alexander William Gourley KJ4C-QV1 has been given two very different sets of parents and someone is going to have to research that out and see if there are two Alexanders, each with different parents or one Alexander who needs to have his parents determined. Looking at Alexander's Change Log, the extra set of parents probably came in with either the August 2020 merge by kelly or the Dec 2020 merge by Chad. Surrounding those dates, it looks like there a a huge amount of restructuring of his family. All of that probably needs to be re-evaluated and confirmed or fixed.

    A glaring problem is that no one in these families appears to have a single source.

    So I do think you are right. You should take a step back to Norman Douglas Gourley GSVF-2BJ and completely flesh him out. He only has a single Find-A-Grave source that says nothing about his family.

    I do see that you created two copies of Norman and merged them and the added Norman as a son to the pre-existing family of Douglas Stanley Gourley and Norma Irene Edwards. If you have definite evidence that those are his parents - and if you do, you should add just as many sources as you can to document that fact - there is no reason to remove him from his correct parents. You should not create duplicates of Douglas and Norma. You should just continue to document, improve, and correct these families and individuals until you can determine who the real parents of Alexander are and get that fixed.

    I'm not sure I can give any more suggestion. I know nothing about Australian records or research. I'm pretty sure @Brett . might have some suggestions, though.

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  • DiannaBlake
    DiannaBlake ✭
    December 12, 2021

    Thank you Gordon Collet, It's Alexander's parents that a wrong the rest is correct I do have Sources but not sure how to add them most are on ancestry.com. thanks again for your help. Dianna

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    December 12, 2021

    @DiannaBlake This article may help. It has detailed instructions about how to add a source from another website, such as Ancestry, to the FamilySearch tree. https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/how-do-i-add-an-outside-source-to-family-tree

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    December 12, 2021 edited December 12, 2021

    @DiannaBlake

    Dianna

    It's 'Brett'

    I conversed with you, in your previous/first post.

    I stayed out of this one; as, other capable Users/Patrons were already were helping/assisting.

    I did not notice, that 'Gordon' "mentioned" me, in this post, until this afternoon.

    I have been trying to get 'my head around', the whole matter.

    I think that I may have worked things out, maybe ...

    Question:

    Is Douglas Stanley GOURLEY ( G8YX-7VX ), who was created by ANOTHER User/Patron, your Ancestor?

    Please advise.

    IF, he is your Ancestor; THEN, ...

    His Parents DO appear to be Father, Alexander William GOURLEY; &, Mother, Emily Melina MAUNDER

    image.png

    Plus, as a "Source" in "MyHeritage_com":

    https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10550-1963500/douglas-stanley-gourley-in-australia-victoria-birth-index

    And ...

    He DOES appear to have Married, Norma Irene EDWARDS, in Victoria, Australia, in 1946.

    image.png

    Unfortunately, there is NO "Source", for "Marriage", in "MyHeritage _com" ... Some are MISSING ...

    And ...

    He appears to have DIED, in Heidelberg West, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, in 1987

    image.png

    And, of course, there are those two (x2) "Record Hints" in "Family Tree" of 'FamilySearch', confirming such:

    (1) Australia, Victoria, Index to Probate Registers, 1841-1989

    (2) FindAGrave

    that can be attached.

    Plus, as a "Source" in "MyHeritage_com", from "BillionGraves":

    https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10147-25123049/d-s-gourley-in-billiongraves

    Now ...

    That Said ...

    You indicate that the "Parents", of Father, of Douglas Stanley GOURLEY ( G8YX-7VX ); being, ...

    Alexander William GOURLEY ( KJ4C-QV1 ) are WRONG ...

    'Yes', there DOES appear to be 'something a miss' ... two (x2) of Parents, one most probably incorrect.

    Furthermore ...

    His Parents ARE, Father, James GOURLEY ( LV8F-HQT ); and, Mother, Caroline BROWN ( LV8F-H7T ).

    image.png

    Plus, as TWO (x2) "Source" in "MyHeritage_com":

    (1) Australia, Victoria Birth Index, 1837-1920

    https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10550-234552/alexander-william-gourley-in-australia-victoria-birth-index

    and,

    (2) Australia, Victoria Death Index, 1836-1985

    https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10547-1393190/alex-william-gourley-in-australia-victoria-death-index

    Whereas ...

    That SECOND, incorrect set of Parents got added though a "Merge"/"Combine" on 7 December 2020

    https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/changelog/KJ4C-QV1/merges

    [ ie. That SECOND "Merge" / "Combine", brought that incorrect set of Parents ... ]

    That SECOND Possible "Match", was originally PREVIOUSLY, Correctly, "Dismissed"; as, "Not a Match".

    But, was unfortunately, INCORRECTLY, 'resurrected'; and, later ACTIONED; as, a Possible "Match"; and, "Merged" / "Combined", by ANOTHER User/Patron.

    So ...

    That ALL Said ...

    To address/fix, the problem/issue for, the Father, Alexander William GOURLEY ( KJ4C-QV1 ) ...

    I would humbly suggest, that simply "Restoring", that Alexander GOURLEY ( KH1Y-HRZ ), who was that SECOND incorrect "Merge" / "Combine"; as, that should separate the two; and, get rid of that SECOND Set of Parents for Alexander William GOURLEY ( KJ4C-QV1 ).

    Then, hopefully, all should be, as it needs to be ...

    Well, lets hope so ...

    I hope, that this helps/assists.

    Brett

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  • DiannaBlake
    DiannaBlake ✭
    December 13, 2021

    Brett, Thank you for your help the details you gave are correct I was the one that merge where I shouldn't have and I am unable to fix that problem I have gone in to try. Douglas Stanley Gourley was my partner father and I have been doing the tree for my grand children I do hope it will get sorted one day all I could do was tick the preferred parent of Alexander William Gourley. Now I need to look how to add photos and sources. Dianna

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  • DiannaBlake
    DiannaBlake ✭
    December 14, 2021

    Brett, thank You I would appreciate that next time I will be very careful on merging anyone and double check all the details including parents of the person.

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    December 14, 2021 edited December 14, 2021

    @DiannaBlake

    Dianna

    ALL Done.

    Alexander William GOURLEY ( KJ4C-QV1 ), now has ONLY "One" Set of Parents.

    Alexander GOURLEY ( KH1Y-HRZ ), is now "Restored"; plus, without that Spouse / Wife of:

    Alice PARKINSON ( LB42-9YX ), who now ONLY has ONLY "One" Spouse / Husband.

    I hope, that all is as it should be, for now.

    I was more than happy to hep/assist.

    [ Especially, for a fellow "Aussie" ... ]

    Brett

    ps: Oops, addressed/fixed an oversight on my part, trying to do, too many things at once, all good now ...

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  • DiannaBlake
    DiannaBlake ✭
    December 16, 2021

    Thank you anne wandering & Craig W Armstrong for you advice and help

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