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Malta—Passport Applications, 1865–1943 [Part B] [M3JH-YLV]

samshicat
samshicat ✭✭✭
December 6, 2021 in Indexing

On image 3, the place of birth is written as "and." What is that!? I tried Googling it as a possible abbreviation of a city/town in Malta, but nothing comes up. Do I index "And?"

Many thanks!

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  • Allison Lathrop
    Allison Lathrop ✭✭✭
    December 6, 2021 Answer ✓

    The word "and" has no meaning. The birth field will be marked blank. Thank you for your dedication to the indexing program.

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  • samshicat
    samshicat ✭✭✭
    December 6, 2021

    Thank you! I just couldn't figure out why "And" would be on that image for place of birth. Thank you again!

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  • Allison Lathrop
    Allison Lathrop ✭✭✭
    December 6, 2021

    You are very welcome!

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  • Melissa S Himes
    Melissa S Himes ✭✭✭✭✭
    December 7, 2021

    Just thinking you probably should type what is written. I did quick search of places in Malta that start with A and found Andar ix-Xaghari which appears to be a place in Malta with a population of 11,810. Type what you see and let the researchers figure out the rest.

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  • samshicat
    samshicat ✭✭✭
    December 7, 2021

    Okeedokee! Many thanks! 👍️

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  • LaurenB808
    LaurenB808 ✭
    December 29, 2021

    Thank you for asking this question! I specifically came here to see if it was mentioned yet because I couldn't figure it out either!

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  • samshicat
    samshicat ✭✭✭
    December 29, 2021

    I later felt that's a lot of people born in "And." I'm wondering if it's "ditto" for place of residence AND birth? I've been leaving it blank.

    ANOTHER QUESTION: Some applications have both the husband and wife on a joint passport. Do I create a separate record for the wife? The husband is the principle but his wife's photo is on the application and her info is to the side.

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  • Melissa S Himes
    Melissa S Himes ✭✭✭✭✭
    December 29, 2021

    You shouldn't need to create a separate record for a joint passport. Sharing a batch like this would be helpful to get the most accurate answer. I think one individual is the principle and the other is the spouse in the fields. The researcher will find the image and see it is a joint passport.

    (It is kind of like indexing a family passport shown in the example, isn't it?)

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  • samshicat
    samshicat ✭✭✭
    December 30, 2021

    It's too bad the project instructions are not clearer about how to handle a joint passport. That family passport example says nothing about NOT creating a second record for the wife. It also doesn't say anything about indexing the children, which according to the instruction below, they should have a separate record:

    • Children should be indexed as separate entries. If the sex of the applicant and spouse can be determined by relationship terms, titles or terms, or other evidence in the language, index them in the father or mother fields. If you cannot determine the sex of the parents, index the first person as the father and the second person as the mother.

    Thanks for your help on this!

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  • Melissa S Himes
    Melissa S Himes ✭✭✭✭✭
    December 30, 2021 edited December 30, 2021

    IDK, but, I think the next example shows to index the children on the example: How to Index a Child on a Family Passport Application. They use the same image to provide an example to index the husband and the wife, with his father identified, and then another example where the children get a separate entry with the parents.

    The only person on these passports that doesn't get a separate record appears to be the spouse - which is more than likely - the wife and there is no information to be collected on her parents.

    But, the form does seem to allow a married woman or a widow to apply based on the wording in (c) and thus the primary in some cases.

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  • samshicat
    samshicat ✭✭✭
    December 30, 2021 edited December 30, 2021

    Thank you!

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  • Nancy Todd_3
    Nancy Todd_3 ✭
    January 10, 2022

    I came here with the same question and I am curious about why the accepted answer is that "And" has no meaning and should be left blank. Is this a known thing or just a guess? I couldn't find anything about this in the project instructions. In the absence of any more information, I would have to agree with Melissa S Himes about just typing what you see. In other projects, they will list words that have no meaning and should not be indexed, such as "natimuerto" in spanish records for a baby born dead. If this is indeed the right answer, can it be added to the project instructions?

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  • Melissa S Himes
    Melissa S Himes ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 10, 2022

    @Nancy Todd_3 Accepted Answer really has no meaning on this platform. When you post a question and someone answers, you are asked something like "did this answer help you?" Yes of No. Clicking Yes makes it an "Accepted Answer" and I don't think there is a way to change that if a better answer follows. The best the poster can do is have several accepted answers.

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  • Nancy Todd_3
    Nancy Todd_3 ✭
    January 10, 2022

    Thanks @Melissa S Himes! I didn't realize that was the case because in other sites that usually means that the accepted answer is the correct one. I am reviewing passport records and seeing there were so many records marked with "And" I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something obvious.

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  • Melissa S Himes
    Melissa S Himes ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 10, 2022 edited January 10, 2022

    You are welcome, @Nancy Todd_3. I think Accepted Answer used here is deceiving, as is the title of Mod. It gives one the sense that the answer must be the correct one, especially when a moderator has answered it. That is simply not true in all cases. If the moderators have spoken with Indexing Operations or the Project Managers, they could include that detail in their answers and we would know it is a correct, and FINAL answer. (I am simply a volunteer who has been indexing for the past 8 years - no authority whatsoever, except what I've seen and learned over the years.)

    I am glad to hear that people typed what was on the document and didn't stray from the instructions. I guess people did miss the instruction to add extra entries for the children on the parents passports since it has been added to the instructions for reviewers to watch out for this! I reviewed one last evening where the children were all missing.

    Happy Reviewing!

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