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Family Search URL for a specific *image* within a source—permalink? simplest link?

JErickso579
JErickso579 ✭
December 3, 2021 edited August 2, 2024 in Search

I want to be able to point a family member to a specific image within a resource.


Like these, on consecutive pages:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9V6-RQSV?i=102

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9V6-RQ39?i=103

But for some reason I'm having all sorts of trouble. I notice this particular source doesn't have a "Citation" section, which might clear things up.


I've used these as an example because there seems to be some weirdness within these (when I back up a page and then return the URL I see in my address bar changes!) but I'm not only talking about this film.


I'm just wondering whether there is a standardized URL format on FamilySearch so I'd know when I've got all that I need to copy and paste but not too much (if you know what I mean—sometimes the cat# is there, sometimes if you come from a search a whole bunch of info is on the end that's not strictly needed, etc...) ——or a way of grabbing a permalink somehow for exactly the image I am viewing, so I can pass it on and someone else, let's say not-very-techy, can click the link and view exactly what I was looking at without having to flip around or get frustrated.


Thanks in advance...

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  • genthusiast
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    December 3, 2021 edited December 3, 2021 Answer ✓

    Access to specific images maybe different between users according to contractual obligations (a negotiated contract with record custodians may be different for members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints and non-members). It would be 'nice' if the contract also included whether redacted or limited access via permalink was permitted (a link that anyone could share with anyone for a specific citation - limited access). It would also be 'nice' to know whether a link is 'permanent' reference to the resource/citation (will not change in the future - I guess somewhat difficult if platform support 'expires').

    As far as 'sharing' a link to an image/resource/citation - sometimes there is a Share option in the header banner at top of the page (for indexed records). If the record is not indexed then yes the links won't have a citation to reference (it depends on which image collection you are accessing). The images you reference are not currently indexed - but clicking the paperclip icon does allow you to attach it to a person in Family Tree and have a source citation. Once attached to a person in Tree - it might be easier to share that reference.

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    December 3, 2021 Answer ✓

    The "ark" URLs are archival, i.e. intended to be permanent regardless of changes in the website's structure. (They said the same thing about the old "pal" URLs, and many of those no longer work at all, hence my weasel words about intent.) They're specific to the image, but like all FS content, they require an account on FS to view them. (If you checked the two-week box, then simply following the link will sign you in, and you will not notice anything, unless the system decides that your two weeks are up.)

    There is another version of the image-specific link which uses the film number and image number:

    https://www.familysearch.org/search/film/007612161?i=102

    This is human-parseable and informative, but the tradeoff is that it goes to the thumbnail view rather than the single-image view.

    (The image number at the end of either style of URL is always off by one from the image number shown in the image viewer. One numbering starts at zero, the other starts at one.)

    The image viewer does not use the browser's address function for things like zoom, pan, and contrast/brightness, so those cannot be preserved in the URL. This means that you can't give a link that shows exactly the part of the page you want. For that, you'd have to do a screenshot and send the image rather than the link. (Or ideally, send both the link and the image.)

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  • AnneLoForteWillson
    AnneLoForteWillson mod
    December 3, 2021

    Not quite sure what you are asking. Both of those links take me to specific images within the record set. Specifically image 103 and image 104 in film # 007612161. Which, looking at the Information tab below, specifies that the record is Record of deaths, 1874-1903, of those who died leaving estates probated in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania. If you click through that link, you can get all the information that you need for a citation, including the author and time period. You should be able to send those links to anyone and they would come to those specific pages/images to view the person that you are interested in. It really is as simple as copying whatever link is shown in the browser and sending that link. If the record is indexed, you can go to the individual record in the index and the link there would take you to the same image.

    Does this answer your question?

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  • JErickso579
    JErickso579 ✭
    December 3, 2021

    Thank you all for your responses. I'm glad I asked!

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