Digitization
Hello,
First of all, many thanks for the wonderful job of providing digitized sources. In this period of epidemics, research can go on and contacts (event if "electronically") can be preserved.
I do not know if this is the right place to put my question, and I know, on the other hand, that no "requests" of digitization can be made. I wonder, however, why for Fosses-la-Ville, Namur, Belgium, Population registers, all microfilms have been digitized (i.e. mf 2420595, 2420596, 2420597 and 2420598) except the first part of the registers found on mf 2420576 (items 8 and 9). Is there a technical reason, or is the digitization of that mf planned at one time or another?
Thanks for you answer and best wishes for your work.
Jean-François KAISIN
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FamilySearch has competed digitization. See: https://media.familysearch.org/familysearch-completes-digitization-of-massive-microfilm-collection/
That does not mean that all the digitized films are available online. From the time the images are created until they are put online to view can take quite some time. And, some images are restricted from online presentation by contractual obligations or privacy considerations.
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Thanks for you quick answer. I'll be patient.
Best regards.
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The reel icon no longer really means anything about microfilm. It indicates that the permissions for that digital image group have not been set to "online".
To my eye, it looks like the lack of online availability for film 2420576 must be an error: "Registre de sortie 1892-1901", which is item 3 on film 2435352, has the camera icon, while "Registre de sortie 1897-1901", item 6 on film 2420576, has the reel. These are both under Registres de population, 1847-1901 in Forville (Namur)(https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/1403763).
Ditto for the parts of the film cataloged under Registres de population, 1846-1900 in Fosses-la-Ville (Namur), where "Registres 1-2: 1846-1857", which is items 8-9 on film 2420576, has the reel, while "Registres 3-5: 1846-1857 -- Registres 1-3: 1858-1870 -- Index 1858-1870", which is film 2420595, has the camera (https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/1403764).
Unfortunately, I haven't a clue how or where to notify FamilySearch of such permissions errors.
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Agree, @Julia Szent-Györgyi. In the past, I might have created a case to inquire, but that option is sadly no longer available.
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Thank you both for your clear answers. Is there any hope that the permissions for that group will be set to "online" one day or another?
Best regards,
Jean-François
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@N Tychonievich is this something you can report? You had mentioned in the thread about place names that were incorrectly changed that you bring issues to the attention of engineers.
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@Jean-Francois KAISIN Let me start by providing you with some information that will hopefully be helpful as you move forward in your research. As has been stated in this thread already, all of the microfilms have been digitized. In the Film/Digital Notes section of the catalog entry, you see both a Film number and a Image Group Number (DGS). That second number is the number for the digitized version.
There is actually a reason for the film reel icon in the Format column. It is telling us that the digital images are not available to view, but that the Family History Library in Salt Lake City does have a physical microfilm version of the records. For those who can get to the library, it is still an option to request the physical microfilm and search it there at the library. And, in some instances, family history centers or affiliate libraries still have copies of microfilms that their patrons can use.
When you see a film number entry such as 2420576 Items 8-9, you know that the microfilm had more than one record set on it. It is unfortunately true that, if any of the "items" have viewing restrictions, all of the items do. This happens because they did not break up the images into separate DGS numbers when they digitized the films. They simply digitized them as they were.
All that being said, yes, I think we have a problem here. Items 1-7 on film 2420576 also show the reel icon and also in a catalog entry where all of the other items are available to view. It appears that the permissions were not applied correctly. We'll get this over to the folks who can dive deeper into the contracts governing access to these images. Can't promise results, of course, be we can hope that they discover that we should be able to view the images on film 2420576.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
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Hello,
Great! Well-done! The images are now available on-line.
Thanks for your action.
Best regards,
Jean-François
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