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Doubts About Russian Surname Structure

arth.off1.5661701767722297E12
arth.off1.5661701767722297E12
September 7, 2020 已編輯 September 24, 2020 於 Social Groups
Doubts About Russian Surname Structure

Hi there,

I am a bit confused about my ancestors name.

I know that russian surnames depending on gender, patronymic, marital status, etc, however, I am very intrigued with my relative's surnames, because they are very different from each other but they belong to same family (parents and children). They are nothing alike!

Perhaps the females' surnames could have been replaced by husbands' name, but how about males names?

Could anyone, please, explain the logic?

 

Father:

Popov Grigory Ivanovich (Попов Григорий Иванович)

 

Mother:

Popova Alexandra Alekseevna (Попова Александра Алексеевна)

 

Children:

 

Vasiliev Ivan Petrovich (Васильев Иван Петрович)

 

Ivanova Galina Grigorievna (Иванова Галина Григорьевна)

 

Mileeva/Mineeva Alexandra Petrovna (Милеева/Минеева Александра Петровна)

 

Thank you very much!

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  • Ellie Vance
    Ellie Vance ✭✭✭
    September 8, 2020

    Hi Arthur!

     

    Do you have records with these names on them listing them as children of the said parents? These names don't fit with usual Russian naming conventions.

     

    Patronymics are derived from the father's given name. Female patronymics typically end in "-ovna" while male patronymics end in "-ovich," "-evich" or "-ev." These endings mean "son of" or "daughter of." So for example, with your ancestor Grigory Ivanovich Popov, Ivanovich is his patronymic, meaning son of Ivan (Grigory's father would have been named Ivan.)

     

    Surnames are the same for males and females except for the endings. Male surnames typically end in a consonant while female versions of the same surname have a vowel ending, usually an "a" or "skya" einding.

     

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  • arth.off1.5661701767722297E12
    arth.off1.5661701767722297E12
    September 21, 2020

    Hi Ellie!

     

    Thanks for replying!

     

    Actually I found the information a in the BREM's form which belonged to my great grandmother.

     

    As I said before their name structure is very weird and I didn't understand the reason why...

     

    The extract from the form is below:

     

    UntitledThanks again!

     

    Best regards

     

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  • Ellie Vance
    Ellie Vance ✭✭✭
    September 23, 2020

    Hmm, that's very interesting that the information with the strange surname structure is coming from your ancestor's own hand! Oftentimes confusion comes from people building public member family trees. Would you mind sending me the whole document? I'd like to take a closer look at this if I can!

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  • arth.off1.5661701767722297E12
    arth.off1.5661701767722297E12
    September 24, 2020

    Sure! I am going to send you a message with the document attached

    Thanks again!​

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