Help deciphering a Norwegian marriage record
The far left column of this page shows a marriage record. I can read:
Peder Pedersen Rumengaard
C: Peder ??sen Flatemoe
Kaaren ??
11 April (1741)
Would the second name, Peder ??sen, be the father of Kaaren? Most of the other marriage records I've read show "og <female name>".
I've attached an image of the record and also here is the link to the same:
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9271/44940/5
Thanks!!
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These older records get pretty skimpy on information sometimes. It also can take reading them over and over and looking at the same type of record over several pages to figure out what is written down. I haven't seen quite this format before so I hope I don't lead you astray but here is what I see.
First off, the names are listed in the column labeled Trolovelsen or engagements. At this point I can't tell you if the date listed in the Copul. (Marriage) column is actually the marriage date or just the date of the engagement. If it is the engagement date, there should be an actual marriage record somewhere on the next couple of pages.
As far as the names, there is, I agree, Peder Pedersen Rumengaard. Next is a C: which would stand for Cautionsmenn (my spelling may be off) or witnesses/groomsmen/bestmen. Then are their two names: Peder Siversen Flatemoe and Kaasten Botnen (no patronymic is present, just is farm name). I'm not certain about the Kaasten but that is what it looks like to me. In any event, the future bride's name is not listed at all. She will probably be in the actual marriage record, but I have seen older Norwegian parish records where the bride was not listed even in the marriage record.
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I had the chance now to do a bit of scanning through this parish register. A full marriage record looks like this:
with the date of engagement in the first column, the groom's name and the bride's name separated by "og" (and) which is followed by C: or Caut: then the names of the two bestmen in the second column, and the date of marriage in the third column.
Many of the records are missing the Trolovelsen date. Some are missing the Cautionsmenn (Trolover or Forlover in more recent parish registers when record is in Norwegian instead of Latin). A few are missing the marriage date. The one you are looking at is the only one I see right off hand missing the bride.
Since Peder's marriage record is missing both the engagement date and the bride, it makes me wonder whether the marriage actually took place in this parish. Do you know where his wife was from, or who she was? Marriage usually took place in the bride's parish. This record looks like the priest was recording secondhand information about a wedding that he had no involvement in. You may need to check records from all surrounding parishes to see if you can find this same marriage with more complete information in one of them.
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