Is this a Denmark name? Eh Udobt Drengebarn Andersen
Here is a census from 1850: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS21-53DT-Z?i=830&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQL68-52KY
I am trying to determine the 1 year old child's name (Eh Udobt Drengebarn Andersen) in the Anders Svendsen family. Could that be his name? The father, Anders is 40 and his wife Karen is 34 here.
This Mom had 25 record hints and now the family seems to be getting quite big, so I am also trying to determine if there could be more than one family. Here is the Mom, Karen MKHP-QX8
I did attach that child, Eh Udobt Drengebarn Andersen: G7DJ-KWG but I am not sure he belongs.
In the 1860 census, he is not there. I did not yet create the last two new children from the 1860 census, as I want to be certain.
Thank you for your time!
Karen Leavitt
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An Unchristened Male Child
He has no name yet
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Karen, it is good that you are cautious in adding the last two children. According to the census, the 1 year old, Anna Kirstine Pedersen is not the daughter of Anders Svendsen but his daughter's daughter. Could I suggest you edit the child entered with the first name of "Eh Udobt Drengebarn". The first name field would be left blank if you don't have a name.
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1 yr old Anna Kirstine Pedersdatter? I don't see her?
I don't think Anders and Karen Kirstine have a daughter old enough to have a child by 1850. I think Hans Jørgen b. 1840 is the eldest child.
The unchristened child is usually in bad health and according to 1860 census he did not survive until then. I have not found his death record.
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The original image lists the child as "Et udøbt Drengebarn," which, as Clifford wrote, means "an unchristened male child." The previous page shows the date of the census as 1 Feb 1850 and the place as Kjeldby parish; the unbaptized child is listed as having been born "her i Sognet" (here in the parish, i.e., in Kjeldby parish). I located the baptism of Svend Peder Andersen, who was born on 27 Dec 1849 but was not baptized until 10 March 1850, after the census. He is the son of Anders Svendsen and Karen Kirstine Nielsdatter, which he is also listed as in the 1850 census. (See first entry at https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21913203#433909,79067616)
If the child had died without having received a name, you would've wanted to enter him into the tree with just his surname, Andersen, leaving the first name blank. However, in this case the child lived to be named Svend Peder Andersen. In his baptismal record, there is a note that he died in 1857, which explains why he is not in the 1860 census.
The families in the 1850 and 1860 census are the same. The ages, names, relationships, and places of birth all match. @Shari Duce, which census are you referring to in which there is a 1-year-old Anna Kirstine Pedersen? I'm not seeing her in the 1850 or 1860 census.
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Ooops,maybe I'm confused. The 1870 census for Anders Svendsen.
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Where did you find the 1870 census? I was looking under the wife (MKHP-QX8) but don't see it under her husband either.
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Svend Peter died in 1857 - #10
http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=433914&side=17
I can't read the notes...
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Oh I see; you're looking at the record hint for the 1870 census. Yes, you are correct; Anna Kirstine Pedersen is listed as the "daughter's daughter" of Anders Svendsen. It doesn't say in that record which daughter's daughter she is, but I located her birth record in Damsholte (based on age and place of birth in the 1870 census); there she is listed as Anna Kirstine Flavia(?) Petersen, born on 7 May 1868, daughter of the unmarried Anna Johanne Andersen (daughter of Anders Svendsen in Kjeldbye), age 23 3/4, and with the father's name given as the bachelor Carl Petersen, servant in Stege.
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Here is 1855 Census which includes the named Svend Peder Andersen
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn968/census1855/opslag7222303
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The death record states that Svend Peter Andersen, son of Anders Svendsen in Kjeldbymagle, died at age 7 3/4 on 28 Oct 1857 and was buried in Keldby/Kjeldby on 31 Oct 1857. The note states that he perished in a mournful/terrible accident by running around and right in the way of the horses pulling Anders Hansen's threshing machine.
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@Clifford Lien, I already linked the words "birth record in Damsholte" in my comment above to that record. (That's why the words show up in blue.)
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How tragic. Well I am going to get working. So glad I can attach him to this family. Thank you all!!
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The indexed record has a transcription error. It should read "Et udøbt drengebarn".
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