Translation Request: Niels Madsen Birth Record
I am looking for help translating/reading the birth record for Niels Madsen born 11 Feb. I can read his name, and the names of his parents, but I'm less sure about what the other columns say, especially the one on the right the witnesses names status and residence.
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This record is available in a new color scan in the Danish Archives (Arkivalieronline) here: https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/en/billedviser?epid=21912975#426069,78422958.
I will give you a transcription followed by a translation of the record starting with column 3.
Transcription:
Column 3: Niels Madsen…vaccineret 20 Junii 1835 af Weis
Column 4: døbt i kirken d. 12 Apriil
Column 5: Hmd (Husmand) Mads Nielsen og hst (hustru) Karen Kirstine Pedersd[atter]: af g[ammel] Bjergbye.
Column 6: b.b. (barn baaret) af Pigen Marie Pedersd[atter] hos Indsidd[er] Peder Olsens Enke i Tømmerup. Gmd (gaardmand) Jens Hansen, Lars Jensen og skrædder Niels Jensen alle af Bjerbye
Column 7: p. 401 No. 19
Translation:
Column 3: Niels Madsen…vaccinated (against smallpox) 20 June 1835 by Weis
Column 4: baptized in the church the 12th of April
Column 5: cottager Mads Nielsen and wife Karen Kirstine Pedersdatter of old Bjergbye
Column 6: (the child) was held at the font by maid Marie Pedersdatter with renter Peder Olsen's widow in Tømmerup. (Witnesses) farmer Jens Hansen, Lars Jensen and tailer Niels Jensen all of Bjerbye (Bjergbye)
Column 7: (where this baptism can be found in the Jevnførelses Register) page 401 No. 19
I located the Jevnførelses register record, but there was nothing new in it-it just refers back to this record. You can see it here: https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/en/billedviser?bsid=156842#156842,26295753.
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(didn't see that Norm had also answered)
Columns:
1 - No. 2
2- born 11 Feb 1835
3 - Niels Madsen, vaccinated 20 Jun 1835 by Weis
4 - christened in the church on 12 Apr 1835
5 - parents are the tenant farmer Mads Nielsen and wife Karen Kirstine Pedersdatter from old Bjergbye
6 - carried by unmarried woman Marie Pedersdatter with renter Peder Olsens widow in Tømmerup; witnesses were farmer Jens Hansen, Lars Jensen and tailor Niels Jensen alle from Bjergbye
7 - page 401, no. 19 in the Jevnførelses Register
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Thank you all for the transcriptions and translations and the link to the family tree!
In column 6, what exactly does "carried by" or "held in the front by" mean. Is that part of the Christening?
I'm also trying to figure out if Peder Olsen's widow has any connection to the family. (With Karen Kirstine's last name being Pedersdatter I'm wondering if Peder Olsen may be her father.) When it says "renter" does that mean Peder Olsen's widow is only a tenant of the family?0 -
When a child was baptized/christened in Denmark, a woman or girl would hold the child at the font during the christening.
The "renter" term simply means that she doesn't own the house, she is paying rent to the owner.
I think that it is probable that Peder Olsen's widow (the witness in Niels Madsen's birth record) was the mother of Karen Kirstine Pedersdatter. My line of reasoning for this is as follows.
1)The 1834 census shows Mads Nielsen and Karen Kirstine Pedersdatter living in Gamle Bjergby. See here: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid3075438. This census gives Karen Kirstine's birth year as 1792 (approximate).
2) Mads Nielsen dies in 1837. His death record is here (next to last entry on the page): https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/churchbook/sogn529/churchlisting144774/opslag16280588.
3) In the 1840 census, widow Karen Kirstine Pedersdatter and her two children, Karen and Niels are still living on Gamle Bjergby farm in Bjergby parish. Karen Kirstine's birth is still 1792. See that census here: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid3860916.
4) In the 1850 census widow Karen Kirstine Pedersdatter is still living at Gamle Bjergby farm, but for some reason her birth is now listed as 1801 in Undløse parish (in this census birth places were reported). I believe this is the same Karen Kirstine Pedersdatter and that her birth in the census is incorrect. I searched the birth records in Undløse between 1798 and 1804 and there were not any girls named Karen Kirstine born in that parish in those years. The birth date in the census must be incorrect! That census is here: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid7623533.
5) I believe this is her in the 1870 census with her correct birth year: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid22840459. This census gives her birth place as Onløse (Undløse).
6) There is a girl named Karen Kirstine born to Peder Olsen on Tømmerup farm, Undløse parish who is christened on 15 Sept. 1793. That christening record is here (right-hand page, 8th entry): https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?bsid=673853#673853,95948267.
7) In Niels Madsen's birth record (in 1835), one of the witnesses is Peder Olsen's widow in Tømmerup. I believe the birth record for Niels Madsen is referring to this farm in Undøse parish and that Peder Olsen's widow is Karen Kirstine's mother and Niels Madsen's grandmother.
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