Littlefield, Oldbury, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom
My grandmother purchased a death certificate from England in 1951. The place was listed as "Littlefield, Oldbury, Worcestershire".
I would like to preserve this information or detail, however, cannot enter as standardized place name.
Can FamilySearch standardize this place name for me?
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(I'm just an ordinary user who foolishly thought he'd accept the challenge of finding Littlefield). You've got me beat on that one. I can find references in people's trees and queries to Littlefield but gazetteers are silent on it. It might be it's just a locally named area, rather than an official place. If I were you, unless the Standards guys can do better, I'd enter the place-name first of all as "Oldbury, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom". That will standardise. Then, edit the death event again; go to the place of death and type "Littlefield, " on the front so that it looks like "Littlefield, Oldbury, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom" - important - I find the safest thing to do is then click outside the text box and outside the drop down list that's just appeared. That will leave the Place of Death set to "Littlefield, Oldbury, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom" and the Standardized Event Place will now appear set as "Oldbury, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom". You can then save this. You have now got the Display place-name set different from the Standardised Place-name. This is fine - this is why we have two - usually I use it to add the address (you can do that as well). (And apologies if you knew all that already). If you do that then it's preserved for everyone to see, even though it's not standardised at the most detailed level.
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@2008 rj
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I am just another User/Patrons like yourself.
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I think that I have possibly found what you are looking for; whereas, it is NOT so much a 'Place' (City; Suburb; Town; Village; Hamlet); but, more so a "Street"/"Road".
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Here is what I think you (through that "Death Certificate" from England in 1951) are possibly looking for.
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Back then:
Little Fields Way, Oldbury, Worcestershire, England
'Google' "Maps":
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Now (from 1974):
Little Fields Way, Oldbury, Sandwell, West Midlands, England.
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Does that "Death Certificate" from England in 1951 indicate that, with a house number, in something like "Little Fields Way"?
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If is does; then, I would put, (house number) Little Fields Way, Oldbury, Worcestershire, England.
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And, Standardise that simply as: Oldbury, Worcestershire, England.
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Of course, that "Littlefield" may even have been (back then), in fact, a House 'Name' somewhere in "Oldbury, Worcestershire, England"!?
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It all depends on the way "Littlefield" appears/is referenced on the "Death Certificate" from England in 1951.
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I did find an very obscure reference to "Littlefield, Oldbury" [ x3 mentions ] in a "PDF Document" (49 Pages) titled the "Skidmore Families of Oldbury, Worcestershire, 1790-1900", by "Linda Moffatt", dated 2012, in "Skidmore Family History" web site
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http://www.skidmorefamilyhistory.com/6.%20SKIDMORES%20OF%20OLDBURY.pdf
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I am sorry, about the best I could do.
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I hope this helps.
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Brett
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The certificate is typewritten, and has "Littlefield" as one word.
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Column Number 1 is labeled "No".
Column Number 2 is labeled "When and Where Died"
Column Number 1 = 158
Column Number 2 -
Twentyeighth
September
Littlefield (one word)
Oldbury
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Found it. Though whether it qualifies as a place or not, I've no idea.
It's basically in the area around where "Little Fields Way, Oldbury" is now. That can be found on both Bing Maps (co-ordinates 52.500815, -2.02039?) and Google Maps. To see it on an old map, go to https://www.old-maps.co.uk and enter "Oldbury" (just that) as the town name, click the Gazetteer button, then choose "Oldbury, Worcestershire" to get a set of maps for that area. Scroll down to the OS County Series, Worcestershire, 1887-1890 and click on Enlarge View against that map.
You can use the cursor to drag the map down a bit until "Rounds Green" is visible, just above the grey word "Oldbury" - the grey one, not the bigger black word "Oldbury"! You can orient yourself (maybe) using the canal visible in Bing or Google (it's the Birmingham Canal apparently). Little Fields can be seen (with luck) very near the canal, east of the grey word Oldbury, not quite as far north as Rounds Green. It doesn't look at all pretty - it's in the middle of a load of clay pits.
Once you've got that centred you can then click on the 1885 1:2,500 map just above - similar set up except I can now see a few houses surrounded by those pits. (Zooming in and out on the site is a pain - it's possible to zoom too far in either direction and the site starts giving you a different map or none at all. Just zoom back).
Don't move the maps, just click the different "Enlarge View" buttons to see how it changed. There's a 1919 map with "Little Fields" (between Round's Green Road and Portway Road) but the 1937 map shows a big factory over the site between those 2 roads - the only houses in the area are on Portway Road.
I hope you can interpret this lot and find it.
But what I can't comment on is whether the FS guys will accept this as a place or not. To be honest, I'm more inclined to think it's an address in Oldbury rather than a place in its own right. 1919 1:2,500 map should appear below.
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Thank you for taking the time to research all of that, of for writing down the instructions.
Ruth Ann
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@2008 rj
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Ruth Ann
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In that case, if it were me, I would just enter the place as "Littlefield, Oldbury, Worcestershire, England"; and, simply "Standardise" it as "Oldbury, Worcestershire, England", leaving the "Littlefield, Oldbury, Worcestershire, England" as entered.
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But, that is just me.
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Brett
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Hi, RJ,
Here's a link to an 1886(?) England OS Map (Ordnance Survey) which clearly shows Littlefield as a smaller place or district within the township boundary of Oldbury. Look for plot no. 487.3--it's tucked up right exactly where the Birmingham Canal Navigation (see the canalway in blue) intersects with the Inkerman Street bridge--where it crosses over the canal; can't miss it: https://maps.nls.uk/view/101585824
You will note that there are numerous "brick works" in this area, each next to clay pits. This is quite probably the brick manufacturing works area for the whole realm! In Littlefield stands right next to one of them many!
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Joseph LITTLE died September 1851.
Would this information still apply (1851 vs 1886)?
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