Searching grandfather Rudolf (Rudolph) Schiller, born 4-4-1896 his Father Franz Xavier Schiller (9-1

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Searching grandfather Rudolf (Rudolph) Schiller, born 4-4-1896 his Father Franz Xavier Schiller (9-12-1857) looking for birth certificate of Rudolf or how to find even a copy. The country changed borders/names during this time, possibly germany,romania,

or Czech Rep. I am new to your site and somewhat floundering.

thanks

Betseylee Browning

Welcome. We would love to help you. We will need more info though. The records are held on a parish level so first we will search his records for a place of origin. Please tell us more about Rudolf. Did he immigrate? When and where? Alone? Did he marry? Where did he die? Here is an excellent article from the FamilySearch Wiki: https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Tracing_Immigrant_Origins

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Rudolf (Rudolph) Schiller born 4-4-1896, I attached heritage website document.. showing grandfather and birth of father.

I also attached passport of my grandfather Rudolf Schiller

The countries changed borders/names so difficult to find before Johan Schiller

Only Rudolf Schiller immigrated to USA.

thank you

Pam Schiller Kroll

Betseylee Browning

What is his place of birth? Do you have a village or town? Also what religion? Have you found the immigration? Do you know the date of immigration and what port they entered? What is his ID# on FamilySearch please?

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According to Rudolf Schiller passport

Birth in Austria (or austria-hungary)

BD 4-4-1896

religion unknown-I know in the USA he belonged to Lutheran church. I believe his last residence was in Gura Hunenra

Rudolf came to USA in 1913 on USS Grant and left from Hamburg, Germany. He arrived in New York.

Regarding his father Franz Xaver Schiller born 9-12-1857 Stad Paura Austria, he died 11-29-1934 In Frasin Romania.(suceava/Bukovina)

Johan Schiller 11-18-1834 Wallig horst Passau Germany

Please advise if you need more information regarding wife name, etc.

These sources came from a Heritage website manager (my relative) "arbremallet-2012"

I do not know about ID#. I do not have any actual documents since it came from a match on my heritage...I am now researching for documents to be accurate.

Any help appreciated

Thank you

Pam Schiller Kroll

 

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Pam ... while it appears as if you have much information it still is going to be a large effort to locate the village of his birth. Looking at the information it appears it is going to be Romania but as you say borders change, etc. It does make it confusing when people indicate they were from Austria ... that is such a wide-open place. His father's death in Suceava is a city in Bukovina, Romania. After WWI Bukovina was controlled by Romania; later after 1940 the Ukraine.

I believe the records will stay in the same place; it is the borders that change First I would suggest asking your relative for the information he or she used to document the dates, etc. Next is going to be a job for you. Locating as much information as you an about Rudolph's life in the U.S. Marriage records, naturalization papers if available, birth certificates for children; death certificates ... all are possible loations for information. Check birth records for all children because information given is sometimes just determined by the mid-wife and what questions she asked. I found a record for a Rudolph b. 1896 on familysearch.org in the 1930 census ... I believe he stated his origin was Romania ... and he spoke german. You might need to check everything thoroughly to locate a place. There is another Rudolph Schiller b. 1896 on familysearch.or who states he was born in Lemberg, Austria. Hopefully, this is not going to discourage you because it can be time-consuming. The good news is that there is a website created by

Felix Gundacher which helps locate the archives of various locations in Europe. But you do need a village location to use it. It is www.genteam.at ... free but you must register with a username and password. The good news for you is that you have actual dates once you do locate archives. If I think of anything else I will add the information. Best advice ....do not get discouraged. Genealogy is a worthwhile hobby and it does take time and effort. Another suggestion. Once you find anything you think might be related write it down and document so you find it again. That has happened to me ... I find something and think well this is nothing. Then I think back and think maybe it really was something .. but where did I find it. Good luck.

Betseylee Browning

Great advise Susan Sander. Thanks so much for helping. My favorite motto is "Never give up."

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Betysey ... and Pam ....I hope this doesn't cause her to give up hope. I know it can be overwhelming but it is worth a try ... perhaps she has started researching already. We can help her and guide her through if at all possible. Susa