Surprise 1920 Drammen Census Find
I recently "found" my grandfather, Albert Herman Wilhelm Talg, in the above mentioned census. He was from Germany and this was 3 years before he married my Norwegian grandmother, Elisabeth Mathiesen, from Holmestrand. I have yet to figure how/where/when they met!
My question is whether he had to register (like the parish moving in/moving out registers) somewhere when he arrived and took up residence in Drammen, and if so, where might I find this? The attached census card gives his place of residence and employment, but I have no idea when he arrived in Norway and would like to find out. I did find him in passenger lists from Hamburg, on 31 Dec 1921 & again on, 16 Sept 1922. I have found no evidence of his travel to Norway in any passenger lists between 1919-1920.
Does anyone have any ideas? I appreciate any thoughts about this. Thank you for any assistance in solving this mystery.
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Unfortunately this group for Norwegian speakers is not very active. You might have had more luck posting to the Nordic Countries Research group. Since no one has answered, I gave your question a try.
The second page of the census record does state he is a permanent resident of Drammen so there should be a moving in record. Unfortunately, I've never run across any of these being indexed. The first thing to determine is what parish he was living in at the time of the census. Going to the transcription of the census, it states that he was living at 194b Peder Buchsgate ( https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01073771014652 ). The street name came from the census district list. Street names are pretty stable in Norway so you can often still find the street mentioned. The house numbering can be more difficult. However, going to Google Maps and putting in the address it get: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Peder+Buchs+gate,+Drammen,+Norway/@59.7441117,10.2119379,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x46413cb62aeea1cd:0xc9ebf8d5b0688a0d!8m2!3d59.7441117!4d10.2145182!16s%2Fg%2F1thbv7ft?entry=ttu which shows me the street. It is not very long.
Now to find the closest Lutheran parish church that existed in 1920. Scrolling out a couple of steps quickly shows Bragernes Church. I don't see any other's it could possibly be. Going to the records for that church, https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb/contents/22295?archive_key=&clerical_parishes%5B0%5D=0602aP&start_year=1920&end_year=1920&text= , there are moving in records but only for 1912 to 1918 even though the register is for 1911 to 1920. Unfortunately, it is often the case that the moving records are not very complete. Let's not give up yet, however, and take a look.
The one page of records is pretty skimpy. One page covers all those seven years and there are only ten entries. Clearly recording who moved into the parish was not a priority for this priest.
Sorry for the bad news. I'm not aware of anywhere else someone moving into a parish would be recorded.
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He may have been registered by the police, but i cannot find any police records. I have also checked the Nationa Library and have found their marriage announcement, but images cannot be saved here. They both lived in Holmestrand at the time. I have shared the screenshot with you in the Family Tree chat.
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Anne-Katherine,
Thank you SO much for this marriage announcement. This is a great find and one more piece located for this family puzzle. I greatly appreciate your efforts on my behalf. I haven't used the FT Chat before so it took a bit of hunting, but I found what you sent(:
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Gordon,
WOW, you have gone through A LOT of work trying to answer my question. I truly appreciate all the effort you put forth on my behalf. It is nice to see how you laid out all the information in the process of going through the search. I hadn't gotten to google maps yet, but it's on my to-do list. I had started tracking all the known places I'd located for my grandfather and putting them on a personal map, and now this location will be added to it.
Thanks, too, for the tip on the other group. I will give them a try!
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