Sweden - Who is Carl's father? - Understanding birth record and household note.
Carl was born 2 November 1825 in Hedesunda. His birth record shows that he was born out of wedlock. The mother, Carolina Olsdotter, is listed but she is listed with someone but it does not say he is the father.
Mother - Carolina Olsdotter, born in 1803. There is a large note that is a little fuzzy so I am needing some translation help.
Here is the next household record showing Carolina married to Carl Sjöberg.
Does any of this tell who his father was?
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The first and third record say nothing about the father.
The text about her in the forsrt redord is Moder, Pig: Carolina Olsdotter hos Afsked: Artilleristen Olson i Gilleråsen. "hos Afsked: Artilleristen Olson i Gilleråsen" explains whose home she is residing at: at the dismissed artillery man Olson at Gilleråsen. The third record notes that Carl is oäkta, so head of the household Carl Sjöberg is probalby not his father.
The fuzzy comment in the second record is not all clear, but the first part is probably about her son Carl being taken to church February 1. 1826 in Elfkarleby (=Älvkarleby). I suggest you check the church record for Älvkarleby 1826 to see if you can find out more.
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Thank you so much. Please check my work and see if I have come to the correct conclusion.
The note on the clerical record states that Carl Östrand is from Elfkarleby on the farm Westranån. Here I find Carl Östrand, born 7 September 1802. He moves to page 140 in 1825
On page 140 it looks like his name is change to Carl Sjöberg. Which is the same birth date for Carl Sjöberg that I already found.
The next record shows Carl Sjöberg with a note about Carolina Olsdotter of Hedesudna, Flaten. While this does not give information on if he is the father or not it does point us to a relationship between Carl and Carolina.
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I cannot read this very well, but I give it a try. Here is my guess on the note in the last record.
"Hedesunda ??? för Hustru Kyrkotagen Pig. Carolina Olsdotter i Hedesunda och Flaten 1826" - it seemstobe about Carolina being taken to church to become his wife.
With your help, I think I understand more of the fuzzy comment in the second link of your first message. It is not about Carl Östrand himself, but about his "trolovade Hustru" = his fiance. Kyrkostogs means that she was introduced to the congregation after having a child. So the first two and a half lines are: D 1/2 1826 kyrkotogs ….. dreng Carl Östrands i Elfkarleby och Västanån trolovade Hustru = On the 1st of February 1826 farmboy Carl Östrand's fiance of Elfkarleby and Västanån was introduced…
I don't get the rest of the note, but you can be sure that Carl Östrand/Sjøberg is the father.
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The rest of the note seems to be:
… enl[igt] en af ___? d: 30 Jan f[örra] å[ret] utg[iven?] prest bevittnad Skrifvelse.
= … according to a writing of ___? from January 30 of last year, witnessed by the clergyman.
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@Anne-Kathrine Henriksen @Ulrich Neitzel
Thank you so much for helping me. I really needed the name of the Parish to understand where I could find Carl Östrand since it is spelled differently now. Understanding the note does bring so much to this record. I could not do all that I family history work I do without the translations that are provided here. Thank you.
Could it be that Carolina Olsdotter had to wait to be presented at the church because she had to be absolved first since she had a child out of wedlock? I do not see a note about this but I know that being absolved was part of the church practices.
As part of that I have heard that there is a way to see the fine one had to pay when they went through absolution. Do either of you know anything about that?
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Sorry, I don't know anything about the payment/absolution.
All women who had given birth, had to be "introduced" to the congregation before they could attend church, so this is probably not special for Carolina. Since Carolina and Carl were "trolovet" it is not certain that they had to pay a fine. I don't know how this was practised in Sweden, but in Norway, where I am, it was often accepted that couples who were engaged to be married, lived together as husband and wife. Pregnancy was OK as long as they married before the birth of the child. But like I said, in Sweden they might have had a different practise.
I am happy that you found the answers you needed about family relations.
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Thank you so much for the insight. It really helps bring a clearer picture to the families I am working on.
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