Baptismal record translation from Herren Sulzbach

Patricia Frey

I need help translating this baptismal record. It's from Herren Sulzbach 1651, film 493273, image 341. I think the child's name may be Johannes Nicolai, but I'm confused by what seem to be extra names in the part above the listing of godparents. I think I can figure out the godparents list, but I would very much appreciate it if someone could translate that first part and help me understand what's going on with this record.

Thanks

Kreisher baptism Image 341 (2) FHL 493273 Herren Sulzbach img 341.jpg

JohnsonGreg

I'm not good enough to transcribe this record well but what I can see is that Philippus Kreischer has twin sons Johannes Melchior and Johannes Nicolaus.

sylviaelchinger1

Here's as much as I can make out for the transcription of the first part -

Dominica 11 Trinit. als den 20 Augustus

haben Philippus Kreischer und seine Hausfrauw

zwey [???] Söhne auf einmal taufen lassen

der erste ist Johannes Melchior

der andere aber Johannes Nicolaus getaufft

Gevatter

Wahren Nicol Kreischer etc etc.

I can't make out the word between zwey and Söhne, but I don't think it's Zwilling - twins - or Gemelli - another word sometimes used for twins. The wording is also unusual - "auf einmal taufen lassen" - baptized at the same time.

Hope this helps.

JohnsonGreg

I did jump to a conclusion. It doesn't say twins. Could the unknown word be "junger"? Perhaps they are two young brothers whose baptism was not performed as infants?

JohnsonGreg

The same word may also be in the record on the left.

Ulrich Neitzel

I agree with @JohnsonGreg: the term is zwey junge Söhne = two young sons. See also the first entry on the left page where it says einen jungen Sohn.

Patricia Frey

Thank you everyone! This is very helpful!!