Answered- Bresson French Ancestors Settling in Lee County, IL
I am stuck on findind more information on my 3rd Great-granparents, Jean (John) Bresson and Francoise Caroline Remy.
The information I have so far:
Jean (John) Bresson (1798-1869)
B: 21 Aug 1798, Massiac, Cantal, Auvergne, France
D: 23 Aug 1868, Dixon, Lee, Illinois, USA (Buried in Amboy, IL)
He immigrated to the U.S. on 8 May, 1855 with is wife and 3 children: Delphine, Hippolyte "Polite", and Delphin. They settled in Lee County, IL.
I believe Jean and Françoise married in 1833.
Françoise Caroline Remy (1808–?)
B: 7 Oct 1808, Magnivray, 70469, Haute-Saône, Franche-Comté, France??
D: Unknown, Dixon, Lee, Illinois, USA"
Because I am unable to read French, I am not able to verify Jean or Françoise's birth records, parents or siblings.
If anyone can assist in my research, it will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Joan Bresson-Custer
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Thanks Matthie,
I have not see these names used before in front of my ancestors.
F Jeanne Claude Delphine BRESSON 1835-1916 - I have only seen Delphine Bresson
H Auguste François Hippolyte BRESSON 1837-1900 - I have only seen Hippolyte (or Polite) Bresson
H Jean Claude Delphin BRESSON 1846-1900 - I have only seen Delphin Jules Bresson
Was it common to have these additional names and were they used? Would these be on birth records.
In regards to Jean Bresson's records. I am now going in a new direction, as some other references I have seen, have his father has a Jean Bresson too.
I now have a new direction to look.
Thanks again.
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It's current to have 3 names and one surname in the XIX century.
Be carefull with informations on Geneanet, all informations are not true but you have good directions.
You need to verify in the online french departemental records.
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Thanks Matthieu
I always appreciate the help and tips. Could you point me to the "online french departemental records"?
Any tips on how I would recognize my ancestors. I know the names of the other French familes who came to the US on the same ship and settled in Lee County.
Place of Origin: France
Departure Port: Europa
Destination: New York
Arrival Date: 8 May 1855
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Trumbull
Names of passengers:
Henry, Jean "Basille"
Henry, Constantine
Henry, Leopold (married Delphine Bresson in IL; born in Tucquegnieux, Lorraine, France or Buliet)
Henry, Eugene
Henry, Rose
Henry, Delphine (I believe she married to Constantine)
Antoine, Edward (brother of Delphin's future wife, who was not on this ship)
Antoine, Marie Rose (wife)
Antoine, Sheffield
Thanks,
Joan
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More informations about Antoine's family here : https://gw.geneanet.org/hbarulea?n=antoine&oc=&p=constant+edouard
ANTOINE Edouard 26 years in 1855 is Constant Edouard ANTOINE, born the May 21th 1829 at Longine, Haute-Saône, France.
ANTOINE Marie-Rose 27 years in 1855 is his wife, Marie Rose JACQUOT (her real name), born the February 17th 1828, at Longine, Haute-Saône, France.
Married together the October 1rst 1853 at Beulotte-Saint-Laurent, Haute-Saône, France.
In 1855, when they immigrated, the register note 1 child, ANTOINE Théophil, 1 year who is Célestin Théophile ANTOINE, born the October 14th 1854 at Beulotte-Saint-Laurent, Haute-Saône, France.
All register of Haute-Saône are here : https://archives.haute-saone.fr/archive/recherche/etatcivil2/n:119
After their immigration, they lived in Amboy, Lee County, Illinois. Edouard and Marie-Rose have had 4 more Children : Theodule Blaire Antoine (1856), Julius Antoine (1858), Arthur Antoine (?) and Emil Antoine (1861). But Marie-Rose died in 1861.
Edouard has had a second wife Caroline Hazemann, married the February 11th 1865 at Amboy, Illinois, US. They have had 9 children more together.
The link with the Bresson Family is that Marie Clarisse ANTOINE, https://gw.geneanet.org/hbarulea?lang=fr&iz=14968&p=marie+clarisse&n=antoine, sister of Constant Edouard ANTOINE married Jean Claude Delphin BRESSON (see after).
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More informations about BRESSON's family here : https://gw.geneanet.org/hbarulea?n=bresson&oc=&p=jean
BRESSON Jean 50 years is Jean BRESSON, born the January 20th 1798 at Esmoulières, Haute-Saône, France
BRESSON Hypolithe 16 years is Auguste François Hippolyte BRESSON, born the November, 29th 1837 at Esmoulières, Haute-Saône, France
BRESSON Delphin 5 years is Jean Claude Delphin BRESSON, born the November 17th 1846 at Esmoulières, Haute-Saône, France
BRESSON Françoise 49 years is Jeanne Françoise Remy, spouse of BRESSON Jean, born the June, 3rd 1813 at Magnivray, Haute-Saône, France. She married Jean BRESSON the December 27th 1834 at La Voivre, Haute-Saône, France
BRESSON Delphine 25 years is Jeanne Claude Delphine, born the July 30th 1835 at La Voivre, Haute-Saône, France. She married HENRY Jean François Leopold the January 13th 1857 at Dixon, Illinois, US. Be carefull, She was born at La Voivre, Haute-Saône. There's a mistake on Geneanet.
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More informations about the HENRY's family here : https://gw.geneanet.org/hbarulea?lang=fr&iz=14968&p=jean+basile&n=henry
HENRI Bazile is Jean Basile HENRY, born the April 3rd 1794 at Beulotte-sur-Laurent, Haute-Saône, France.
HENRI Constant is Jean Baptiste Constant HENRY, born the December 18th 1824 at Beulotte-sur-Laurent, Haute-Saône, France.
HENRY Léopold is Jean François Léopold HENRY, born the Mai 23th 1830, later spouse of Jeanne Claude Delphine BRESSON.
HENRI M Rose is Marie Rose Villemard, born the June 26th 1807 at Esmoulière, Haute-Saône, France, spouse of Bazile HENRY. She married him the November 15th 1824 at Beulotte-Saint-Laurent, Haute-Saône, France
HENRY M Delphine is Marie Françoise Delphine GAVOILLE, born the October, 10th 1827 at Rosière, Haute-Saône, France, spouse of Jean Baptiste Constant HENRY.
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All registers of Haute-Saône are here : https://archives.haute-saone.fr/archive/recherche/etatcivil2/n:119
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I am so amazed by what you have found.
A marriage record for Jean Bresson and Francoise Remy.
I appreciate how you have provided names and locations. I can now have more accurate information in my tree.
Thank you so, so much.
Joan
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To answers to your first question, the ascendance of Jean BRESSON is :
Jean BRESSON (Birth 20 january 1798 Esmoulières, Haute-Saône, France Death 23 august 1868, Amboy, Illinois, US), son of Joseph Gabriel BRESSON and Marie Rose FORMET
Joseph Gabriel BRESSON (Birth 18 nov 1769 Faucogney-et-la-Mer, Haute-Saône, France Death 10 january 1819 Esmoulières, Haute-Saône, France ) was son of Claude Antoine BRESSON and Marie Gabrielle RINGUEZ
Marie Rose FORMET (Birth 25 february 1766 Faucogney-et-la-Mer, Haute-Saône, France Death 09 march 1827 Esmoulières, Haute-Saône, France) was daughter of Jean Claude FORMET and Marguerite DIRAND
Joseph Gabriel BRESSON and Marie Rose FORMET got married the 15 june 1790 at Faucogney-et-la-Mer, Haute-Saône, France
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Wow. This totally changes who I thought Jean Bresson's parents were.
My relatives had this in their trees:
Jean's father as another Jean Nicolas Bresson (B:19 Nov 1779 Bouhans Les Lure, Hte Saone, France; D: 31 Mar 1866) His father was listed as Eloy Marchae Bresson (B:17 Mar 1746 Bouhans, Saône-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France; D:28 Aug 1807 Bouhans, Saône-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France)
Not being familiar enough with France, I am not sure the Bressons listed were anywhere close to the Bressons you have now provided to me.
I am so appreciative.
I am leaving on a trip tonight until Friday night, so if I do not respond right away, you know why.
Joan
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There are lot of namesake.
BRESSON Jean, born in 1798 at Massiac is son of François BRESSON and Marguerite CHASTANG.
His spouse was Marie Pauline FORNS.
He never go in US. He died the April 10th 1881 at Paris, France.
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And BRESSON Jean Nicolas BRESSON, was born, lived and dead at Bouhans-les-Lure, married to Marie Rose Sarazin.
They have had 12 children, all of them born in Bouhans-les-Lure, between 1774 and 1792.
I think it's not yours.
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Thank you for checlking.
I am assuming that none of the children of BRESSON Jean Nicolas BRESSON, and Marie Rose Sarazin had a son named John (Jean) either.
I looked up both Bouhans-les-Lure and Esmoulières in Google and wikipedia. They both appear to be part of Bourgogne-Haute-Saône region.
Wikipedia says Bouhans-les-Lure is a commune in the Haute-Saône department in the region of Bourgogne-Franche-Comté in eastern France.
It also said that Esmoulières is a commune in the Haute-Saône department in the region of Bourgogne-Franche-Comté in eastern France. The dwarf chansonnier Auguste Tuaillon was born in Esmoulières.
The last sentence peaked my interest as I have a 3rd great grandmother named Julienne Toullian (who married Laurent Gehant) and I think they are from that area too. I have seen her last name spelled numerous ways.
Julienne Marie Collileux Toullian (B:14 Nov 1828 Esmoulieres, Haute-Saône, Franche-Comté, France; D:26 Jun 1899 West Brooklyn Township, Lee County, Illinois, USA)
So. I am going to input the correct Bresson line into my tree.
Thanks so much for the information.
Joan
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Can I ask where you live?
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Thank you. That really clears up a lot.
I love France. I was able to visit many years ago.
My cousin Mary and I want to take a trip to France, Luxembourg, and Germany to visit the places where our ancestors grew up. Just not sure when yet.
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I live in France, near Paris.
The couple BRESSON - SARAZIN has had a child named Jean Claude BRESSON but he was born in 1774 et dead in 1775.
Laurent Jean Baptiste Duvall Gehant was born the October 7th 1818 at Beulotte-Saint-Laurent, Haute-Saône, France, son of Jean Claude Gehant and Claude Marie Daval.
Marie Julienne Adélaïde Toullian was born the November 14th 1828 at Esmoulières, Haute-Saône, France, daughter of Jean Baptiste Toullian and Marie Françoise Agnès Collilieux.
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To answer your first question, ascendants of Jeanne Françoise REMY are :
Jean François REMY (Birth 5 february 1769 Magnivray, Haute-Saône, France Death 23 october 1817, Magnivray, Haute-Saône, France), son of Jacques REMY and Françoise DUPONT
Marie Madeleine BOFFY (Birth 18 december 1775 Magnivray, Haute-Saône, France, Death 11 january 1831 Magnivray, Haute-Saône, France), daughter of Jean Claude BOFFY and Françoise BUSSEMEY
Jean François REMY married Marie Madeleine BOFFY the August 15th 1797 at Magnivray, Haute-Saône, France
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Thanks so much @matthieucrouet !
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