Where did they go?

JohnsonChristopherF

I am trying to find where Sara Mathilda Jonasdotter (1863-04-08) and her brother Johan Anders Jonasson (1855-11-29) went when they left Torpa Parish. The household examination has notes that I cannot read - see attached from Torpa (G) AI:16 (1879-1892) Image 130 / Page 122. And the move out records list what I think is a parish, but again, I cannot read the name - see attached from Annerstad (G) BI:3 (1878-1892) Image 113'. Index search on ArkivDigital turns up no records beyond Torpa as far as I can see.

Thanks for your help.

Secondary question - Is this the right place to post a question like this? Based on what I was used to on the old page, I expected to be able to "Ask a question" in the drop down under New Discussion, but got a screen that said I did not have permission for that.

Norm Baker

The note for Johan says he is living in an unknown place. The note in the household survey indicates that Sara Mathilda has gone to Germany. I haven't been able to figure out the note in the moving record for her. Neither of them show up in the Swedish death book so they may have left Sweden and never returned.

I forgot the secondary question! Yes, this is the perfect place to ask this. Not sure why you didn't have permission.

JohnsonChristopherF

Thanks again! You mention the Swedish death book - how or where do I find that?

One other comment on the new webpage. I used to get an email "Norm Baker answered your question" or something like that - now I guess it's on me to keep checking the site to see if someone has responded.

Morris Geoffrey Fröberg

Hi @JohnsonChristopherF,

The note for Johan Anders Jonasson (on Torpa (G) AI:16 (1879-1892) Image 130 / Page 122) is "å särsk. fört." which is referring to the heading on p. 394 called Särkild förteckning enl. Kongl. Förord. 20 July 1861. The registration for Johan Anders was moved from Bägaryd to p. 395 of this section of the book. It is a list of people who did not check with the pastor before leaving the parish. They essentially had an active file with the parish but whose residence was unknown. The note back on page 122 says that Johan Anders had "unmarried status when he left the parish but was living in Queensland (Australia) since the year 1878." His registration in this household record was moved to the unknown residence list in 1891.

The notes about Sara Mathilda on p. 122 are a mix of notes that were added between 1879 - 1892. When you see the word Bet. or bet. it's referring to a certificate issued by the pastor. I think the ones from 1881, 1884, and 1889 are referring to notes indicating her unmarried status. The Adm. is for admitted meaning when she was confirmed in the Lutheran State Church and was admitted to the congregation. The same note of "å särsk. fört." is writen to indicate her registration was moved to p. 395 and a note was added that she resides in Germany.

The Swedish Death book is a database of all deaths in Sweden between 1860 - 2017. It can be purchased through the Federation of Genealogical Society's website, see https://www.rotterbokhandeln.se/product.html/sveriges-dodbok-7.

Hope this helps,

Geoff

Norm Baker

In response to your comment above "One other comment on the new webpage. I used to get an email "Norm Baker answered your question" or something like that - now I guess it's on me to keep checking the site to see if someone has responded." , I am passing on a response that I got from Gordon Collette concerning the same issue:

"Click on your account icon in the upper right corner and choose Edit Profile. Then choose Notification Preferences. There are fifteen types of e-mail notifications you can turn on and off. Several deal with being notified by e-mail when someone comments on a response:

You may want to turn them all on then if you get e-mails you really don't care about, try and figure out which ones to turn off.

The second column is to be notified by a pop-up. I'm not exactly certain how that works."

Thank you, Gordon!!