Would there be someone that could please help me research my Grandmother's family line? She was from
- Anna Grills KVL6-YVC
- Birth: 26 July 1893 Ljubljana, Kroatien-Slavonien Kronlaende, Austria
- Married my Grandfather, Otto Dernoll, 9 Jun 1926 in Crown Point, Indiana. Lived in Saint Charles, Kane, Illinois, USA & in Chicago, Cook, Illinois.
- Her Marriage Application lists her mother and fathers names; Father-Joseph Grills, birth place Austria, listed as dead. Mother-Margaret Jurgura, birth place Austria, listed as dead. My father, Herbert Edward Dernoll, was an only child. My Grandmother passed away on 22 Apr 1952.
- I cannot seem to find her immigration records or naturalization records.
- other spellings of her name: Anna Grils on my fathers birth certificate.
- Sources researched:1926 marriage record, 1929 sons birth certificate, 1930 United States Census, 1952 find a grave & obituary.
- I do not know where or how to search for her birth records
답변들
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Did she immigrate with her husband? Did she immigrate with parents? What religion? What year do you think she immigrated? Any idea which port? Do you have the obit that you could post please?
Betseylee Browning
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My Grandfather met her in Chicago, so she was single and not with her parents at that time. I have not been able to find the parents in the USA, so I don’t believe they travelled here.
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Could you please address my other questions? Thanks!
Betseylee
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Yes, I'm sorry, I was responding from my iPad and evidentially was not seeing your complete post. Thank you for responding!
- I do not know what religion for sure, but I believe Catholic.
- Immigration year is also pure speculation, but if she came by herself I'm thinking that she would have been 18 years old, so maybe 1911 or after.
- My Grandfather, who came from Gratz, came through the Port of Baltimore in 1904, so those are the records I have looked at.
Link to the obit: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WGSM-1JW2I am more than happy to answer any other questions you might have.
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Do you have a copy of the complete obituary? If not I would contact this library right away for a copy. Usually you can do this online through the Library's website where it says "Contact us" or "Contact a Librarian".
Betseylee
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Have you checked the sexton's records at the Cemetery's office? Sometimes they contain more info.
Betseylee
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It would save a lot of time and effort if you could determine their religion for sure. Her obit might have a clue. They were married by a justice of the peace, so that doesn't help.
Betseylee
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There are Lutheran records for Ljubljana (Laibach) in the FamilySearch Card Catalog but the right year has not been digitized. https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/406418?availability=Family History LibraryThere are census records for this area that are digitized. https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/1005241?availability=Family History Library I don't know which one it would be on. You would have to search page by page in the correct record set.
Betseylee
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Thank you, I will work on this.
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No I have not, but I will work on this too.
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Thank you
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Dianna,
The vast majority of Slovenians were Catholic, as you pointed out in the possible identification of the faith of your ancestors. The records of the diocese of Ljubljana are not available online; they are only available at the diocese archive in Ljubljana. The diocese has been mandated to put their records online; I've hear estimates of 5-10 years before this will happen. I would recommend contacting the archive to see if they can help you with finding the baptism record of your grandmother: https://www.nadskofija-ljubljana.si/nadskofija/nadskofijski-arhiv/
I'd also do as much research on Anna in the US. Did she have siblings or cousins that came over? (This is very common for people to immigrate with extended family.) Did the couple subsequently marry in the catholic church? If possible, an original record that states the birth place would be ideal. Most people emigrated from their home villages, and sometimes identified the nearest large city as their places of origin to family members, etc., so it's entirely possible Anna wasn't born in Ljubljana but in a nearby village (which would have a completely separate set of records). Please let us know how contacting the archive goes, and hopefully we can continue helping you with finding Anna's birth/baptism record!
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Thank you for your suggestions. I do not speak Slovenian, so will I have a language barrier when trying to communicate with the archive?
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Dianna - you will probably want to write your letter in Slovenian, but you can usually use Google Translate as long as you use short, simple sentences. You can also include an English version of your request at the end of the email and then whatever language they respond in is the one you can correspond in Good luck!
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