Hello, and could you please translate left side, up 6 rows for Joan Uhrin? thanks! Also, rig
thanks!
Also, right side up 5 from bottom for Joan Uhrin (same link)
Also, is Laborcz Volya and Nátafalva inter-changeable, or close in distance?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-68K3-5H1?i=98&cc=1554443
Also, this Joannes Uhrin - right side, line 1. And is he a widower at this point?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-68K3-PR7?i=105&cc=1554443
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I am not seeing the ones you want. What is the first number. I see Joannes Uhrin top left and it is a death record.
Betseylee
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This is a Slovakian record and used genteam.at as a gazetteer. It is free but you must register. I could not find the first place you mentioned.
Detail View: Gazetteer of Austrian, Czech, Slovak and Slovenian Republic
No.76473
Place Name:Ves Nacina
Name Hungarian:Nátafalva
Judicial District:Michalovce
Crown Land:Ungarn (heute Slowakei) Name
Begin of Vital StatisticsRespective Archives
Competent Parish - Roman Catholic:Strazske1713/1771/1715Landesarchiv Presov
Competent Parish - Protestant HC:Lastomir1787/1787/1787Landesarchiv Presov
Competent Parish - Greek Orthodox:Vola1805/1812/1805Landesarchiv Presov
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You are correct its the top left for Joannes Uhrin,
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-68K3-PR7?i=105&cc=1554443
Image 99 - Joan Uhrin (left side 6 rows up from the bottom)
Image 99 - Joan Uhrin (right side 5 rows up from the bottom)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-68K3-5H1?i=98&cc=1554443
thanks, Betseylee
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The one on the left is the 11 or 21 March 1828 Nátafalva burial record of Joan Uhrin, Joannes Uhrin's son [filius], age 1 year ["A" for "Anno"]; the one on the right is the 13 Feb 1829 Nátafalva burial record of Joan Uhrin, Maria Drinko's(?) husband [maritus], age 42 years. (So the first name listed is of the deceased.) In the last link you provided, on the left side, the first entry listed is the 29 Aug 1830 burial record of Joannes Uhrin, widower [viduus], age 50 years.
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Charlotte, thank you so much!!
29 August 1830 burial record for Joannes was in Laborcz Volya? Did it say what was the cause? So, if I did the math right his birth year would be around 1790 then?
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You're welcome, Cherie! Joannes died in 1830 at age 50, so that'd put his birth date right around 1780! However, note that when a round number is listed in a death date, it does increase the chance of it being an approximate age (i.e., such as if a neighbor who didn't know the person's exact age reported the death). And yes, he died in L[aborcz] Volya. His cause of death is written in the last column (closest to the binding) and is written in Latin, but I can't quite make it out.
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I've been looking thru all the records trying to find the birth of my GGGrandfather - again another Joannes Uhrin according to the 1869 Census year of birth 1828. Could it be his father, or his grandfather, . Grrrr Appreciate your help !!
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Thanks Charlotte Noelle for your help. I had an eye procedure today and could not see well. Thanks for taking care of it.
Betseylee
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1828 2 May. Deceased: Joan[nes] Uhrin, son of Joannes Uhrin, age 1 year, Greek Catholic, commoner, Natafalva
1829 13 Feb. Decased: Joan[nes] Uhrin, husband of Maria Drinko, age 42 years, Greek Catholic, commoner, Natafalva
1830 29 Aug. Deceased: Joannes Uhrin, widower, age 50 years, Greek Catholic, farmer, commoner, widower, LVolya, [can't decipher last column]
On the Third Military Survey map on Mapire.eu, Nátafalva is the second village south of Laborczvolya. (Sztankócz is in between.)
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I definitely understand your frustration; it's tough when there are multiple people with the same name in a parish! The Johannes Uhrin born in about 1780 could be the father, grandfather, or even uncle or some other type of relation to the one born in 1828. Do you have the link to the 1869 census listing so we can see it as well?
Looking at the FamilySearch Catalog entry for the Greek Catholic parish of Volya (linked), hitting CTRL+F on your keyboard and typing in Krsty to show the listings for christening records shows that the years 1827-1828 and 1830-1831 are missing. If the census was correct that Johannes Uhrin was born in 1828, then, the record is unfortunately not available, at least not on FamilySearch. You could try looking in the closest years available, namely 1826 and 1829; there is a Joannes Uhrin born in 1824 and another in 1833 (see linked search) but again, if your Joannes was born right in 1828 then the record is not there. If you are able to locate his parents' names in some other way, then you could search for his parents' names to find his siblings and gather the family that way.
You could look for the post-1869 death of a Johannes Uhrin in Volya (that'd be on film 1794325; the 1869 deaths begin on image 172, see linked), looking for someone whose age would fit with an 1828 birth.
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You must have been reading my mind, I spent last night looking for those years and yep, they are missing. Another piece of this puzzle, is the Marriage Record that shows he was 21, and Anna was 20. Her age checks out to everything I have uncovered, but his, not so. 1828 or 1831 ?? Thanks for the link and I will start looking for another clue. Thank you again.
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thanks, Betseylee
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Thanks Julia. The map is awesome!!!
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Charlotte, here is the link for the 1869 Census that lists the family as:
1869 Census of Laboreczvolya House No. 25
I. Janos Uhrin
Anna Sztaruch, wife
Mihaly, 1856
Janos, 1859
Gyorgy 1867
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSR9-341B?cat=385993
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