I don’t think that “Triumph Church Cemetery” is located correctly in the standards database.

JeffWiseman

I don’t think that “Triumph Church Cemetery” is located correctly in the standards database.

The standard place name for the church itself is

“Triumph Church, Bracken, Kentucky” in the standards database located on 2211 Parina Road/Pike. It is not actually in the town of Brooksville, Bracken, Kentucky, but is 3-5 miles outside of town.

https://www.familysearch.org/research/places/?focusedId=4197202&reqParents=394111&reqParentsLabel=Bracken, Kentucky, United States&reqParentsType=209&currentPage=3

 

That church has a small Cemetery adjacent to it on the north side of the church. I can only assume that the name of that cemetery is “Triumph Church Cemetery”. However, the only standard for the cemetery is:

“Triumph Church Cemetery, Brooksville, Bracken, Kentucky, United States”

 

However, it is only a provisional place entry in the database. and it uses the center of the town of Brooksville for it’s geo-location, resulting in the map pin being placed 4 miles away from the cemetery in in town.

 

I am pretty sure that the cemetery north of the church is the Triumph Church Cemetery (sometimes just the "Triumph Cemetery") even though it doesn’t show up on google maps (you have to turn on satellite mode to see it). But Lillian Freshour GW8V-B8J was stillborn in 1914 and her Kentucky Death certificate shows her as being buried in “Triumph Cemetery”. Four years earlier, the 1910 US Census shows her parents and siblings all living on Parina Road near Brooksville. I’m sure that is the same road that the church and cemetery are on.

 

That’s about all I know on it right now, but the standard name with the cemetery being shown inside the town of Brooksville is really not as correct as it can be.

JeffWiseman

Anyone from the @FamilySearch Places​ team know anything about this?

JeffWiseman

Haven't hear from anyone on this for a week now.

JeffWiseman

It's been 2 weeks and I've still seen no response to this which is unusual for the Places groups. Am I not posting this question correctly?

 

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Brett .

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Jeff

Sometimes it is quick; whereas, sometimes it is not

And, sometimes you do not even get a response.

I have been lucky of late.

Brett

JeffWiseman

Yea, but the places group is usually pretty fast at this and usually acknowledge when it's in their system.

Skolmoski, Pamella Sue

We are working on your request and will get back to you as soon as it is completed. Sorry for the delay. We have been bombarded the last few weeks and are now getting our heads back above water.

 

Thank you for your patience.

 

Authorities Team

Sandy Remote Operations Center

JeffWiseman

Thanks! As long as it's in the pipe, we're good 👍

Skolmoski, Pamella Sue

Dear Jeff, 

There is now a FamilySearch Places entry for the Triumph Church @ https://www.familysearch.org/research/places/?focusedId=4197202  

and FamilySearch Places entry for the Triumph Church Cemetery @ https://www.familysearch.org/research/places/?focusedId=10858186. 

Find a Grave lists Brooksville as the city. It is probably the closest post office location.  The church and the cemetery have slightly different coordinates, but at least they point to the correct things. 

Hope this helps in clarifying your questions.   

 

Thank you for your interest in improving FamilySearch Places. 

 

Best Regards, 

 

Authorities Team 

Sandy Remote Operations Center 

 

JeffWiseman

Thanks for that!

 

I am curious though. Why would a "Standard" place name include a town that the location was never physically in?

 

I frequently come across this where Find a Grave has given incorrect place names like this simply because the post office that received mail for the church (i.e., the one next to the cemetery) was in that town. Since the places database is supposed to be oriented toward the names of physical locations over the years, it just seems kind of odd