The post card that Stephanie Bradshaw submitted 18+ hours ago states that it is from Gablonz Bohemen
If this is true, Josef Schmidt (1802-1861) ran an Inn at Jablonec nad Nisou, Czech Republic. His father was Antonin Schmid (1751-?) and his mother was Anna Maria Lang/ova (1773-?). I only have Josef as a son, but I'm sure there were others. Where can I locate that information?
답변들
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Ray, records for the Jablonec nad Nisou Catholic parish can be viewed through the Litomerice archive website -- http://vademecum.soalitomerice.cz/vademecum/.
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Thank you, but the site listed is in Czech and I am stuck again.
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Ray, you can also view the records on FamilySearch -- https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&placeId=1132802&query=%2Bplace%3A%22Czech%20Republic%2C%20Jablonec%20nad%20Nisou%2C%20Jablonec%20nad%20Nisou%2C%20Jablonec%20nad%20Nisou%22&subjectsOpen=1152997-50
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Just so you're aware, before 1709 the people attended the following parishes: Bzi (1669-1708), Rochlice u Liberec (1652-1668), Liberec (1623-1651)
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It is possible to search these records and not speak Czech or German (which is used a lot in the records). It does involve a learning curve. I have posted some handwriting lessons one the Czechia (Czech Republic) FamilySearch Community group on the right hand side of the page under links-https://community.familysearch.org/s/group/0F93A0000009aTISAY/czechia-czech-republic-research?language=en_US. I do not speak either language and by knowing the commonly used genealogy words have been able to track my family.
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Do you know what religion he was?
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The Catholic christening records for Jablonec nad Nisou for 1802 start here: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9GX8-CXC?i=88&wc=3NZ9-SPN%3A979674501%2C979678201%2C979713801%2C983480301&cc=1804263 but I did not see him in 1802. You could check the surrounding years. But you will have more success if you take the handwriting free digital courses that I mentioned earlier.
Betseylee
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Do you have any sources that state he was born in Jablonec?
Betseylee
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I went on FamilySearch and found the info you had posted unfortunately without any sources. But I was able to find the marriage record in the Catholic Church. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GGXC-95SW?i=45&wc=3NZM-PTR%3A979674501%2C979678201%2C979713801%2C983481101&cc=1804263
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Here is the wife's christening https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9GXZ-9HCC?i=28&wc=3NZM-BZW%3A979674501%2C979678201%2C979713801%2C983480401&cc=1804263 6th one down. Franz has no parents listed. Theresia has parents listed. Her father is Anton Unger. Her mother is Maria Anna Dreslerova (Dresler).
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Map of the area: https://en.mapy.cz/zakladni?x=15.1690601&y=50.7280828&z=13&source=muni&id=1781
Historic map from 1900's apy.cz/19stoleti?x=15.1652835&y=50.7297127&z=13&source=muni&id=1781
Detail View: Gazetteer of Austrian, Czech, Slovak and Slovenian Republic
No.4219Place Name:Jablonec nad NisouFormer Place Name:Gablonz ad NeißePlace Name German:Place Name Hungarian:Place Name Slovak:Place Name Ukrainian:Judicial District:Jablonec nad NisouCrown Land:Böhmen NameBegin of Vital StatisticsRespective Archives
Competent Parish - Roman Catholic:Jablonec nad Nisou1709/1737/1730Leitmeritz
Former Parish - Roman CatholicBzi1669/1667/1684LeitmeritzRochlice u Liberec1652/1652/1653LeitmeritzLiberec1623/1624/1706Leitmeritz
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Taking a rest for awhile.
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Roman Catholic
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I believe that is the marriage record for Josef Schmid and Maria Anna Seidl/ova. Josef's birth record (according to a genealogist) is located in the State Archive in Litometrice. He was christened in the Roman Catholic Parish in Rychnoy near Jablonec nad Nisou. I have his and his wife's records, but I don't have their parents. I have informationthat his father Antonin Schmid was born on 30 April 1751 in Pulečný 67, Jablonec nad Nisou, North Bohemia, Czech Republic and married Anna Maria Langova (19 April 1773) on 13 February 1798 in Dachau.
I would like to discover any other children and records for their parents.
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I was looking at Josef's marriage record to confirm his parents and birthplace as a christening record from this time period usually states 3 generations (the infant, the parents and the grandparents). So you already had this marriage record?
Betseylee Browning
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This the record for Czech Republic, Church Books, 1552-1981 Catholic Jablonec nad Nisou Rychnov nad Nisou Baptisms (Křty) 1798-1825 (v. L138-18)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9G2Q-9KF?i=29&cc=1804263 and he is not on 15 Feb 1802. I looked through 1801 and 1803 with no success. Sorry! What is your source please? I would suggest that you double check the surrounding years of his birth.
Betseylee
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I am willing to help you learn how to do this, as you already could look into the ancestry of Anna Seidel. This is part of the learning curve and unless you hire a professional your requests for earlier ancestry is hard to fulfill as it will require a lot of time. It can be fun! It is exciting to be the one that finds the records.
I do not know your source for Josef so I cannot tell you where he was born but you should correct your FamilySearch entry to reflect Rychnov parish, which is a different parish than Anna was born in.
Take the handwriting course and tell me what you can make out for the marriage record and I will try and help you fill in the blanks. No time like the present to start your exciting journey. Be sure to join the Czechia/Czech Republic FamilySearch community site. Feel free to ask any questions.
Betseylee Browning
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Are you seeing my comments Rae Sars?
Betseylee
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It is morning again in the US and I will answer you. I thank you for your help, but I am physically handicapped and I started my family's genealogical research after I retired. I have used various genealogists to break through brick walls. Imagine my dilemma to find the birth town of my maternal grandfather Schmidt (Smith). The various US Census's had him in Austria, Bohemia, Czechoslovakia or Germany. I was told that he was a cabin boy on a German ship and he jumped ship and swam to shore. A very good genealogist discovered his Naturalization request and that it had to be given acceptance from the German Consulate in New York. From that we found out he was from Gablonz and she mentioned that she believed the former Gablonz was now in Czechoslovakia.
I searched for and found a genealogist in Czechoslovakia that I hired and he found records (birth, death, marriage) of my ancestors back to Anton Schmid. I thought that I might take over and locate the records on other relatives.
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Good morning. I live in the US too. It would be a lot cheaper to learn how to do this. You might really enjoy it. You might email or write your genealogist and confirm the birthplace and religion of Josef. I would go over the records that I searched again to see if you can find Josef with the right parents. This the record for Czech Republic, Church Books, 1552-1981 Catholic Jablonec nad Nisou Rychnov nad Nisou Baptisms (Křty) 1798-1825 (v. L138-18)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9G2Q-9KF?i=29&cc=1804263
Betseylee
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Did you see this info I added: Theresia Unger has parents listed. Her father is Anton Unger. Her mother is Maria Anna Dreslerova (Dresler).
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I agree it would be cheaper, but I've tried a number of genealogist and he is the only one to translate into English, the location of the record, that he was Roman Catholic, the person who did the christening, the midwife, the mother and possibly her parents and the Godparents. The death record has the location of the record, date and time and cause of death. The marriage record has the location of the record and marriage, who officiated, the bride and groom, the parents names for both and the father's job and the witnesses. I have seen copies of the records and some of the handwriting is horrible and I doubt I could translate it and get all that information, but I guess I'm going to have to try.
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With practice I know you can do this. What a perfect time to learn with having to stay at home so much. Do you have a image of Josef's birth? You might enjoy this blog: http://czechgenealogy.nase-koreny.cz
Betseylee
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