Researching in Nagybánya/Baia Mare, Romania
I'm trying to find documents on my great-grandmother Julianna Tamás, who was born in Nagybánya, Hungary around 1890. She was of the Greek Catholic religion. I know she married Tivadar Gózsa and had 2 sons. Her youngest son from this first married was born in Nagybánya in 1920, then at some point her fist husband died and by 1925 she had moved to Budapest, Hungary, had married my biological great-grandfather and had had a son with him. 2 more children would follow and she died around 1932 at the age of 42, in Budapest. I cannot find anything at all on her birth or marriage to her first husband in Romania. In fact I can't seem to find anything about that part of Romania. Is it possible nothing was documented yet or am I going about it the wrong way? I also cannot find anything about her in Budapest, either, except her and and her first husband's name on her son's death registry in Budapest.
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There's very little available online for places that are now in Romania. (My standard snide explanation is that the Romanian authorities want to make it more difficult for people to document just how non-Romanian their ancestry is.) Ancestry has some church registers, mostly from the "Saxon" cities, but I'm not finding anything from Nagybánya. (This may be due to my inability to figure out Ancestry's searches, though.)
János Kocs of the Transylvanian Genealogical Society (http://erdelygen.uw.hu/forrasok.php) has the Reformed and Roman Catholic registers for Nagybánya, but not the Greek Catholic ones. It may be worth contacting him anyway; he may have a better idea about how to proceed.
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Yes, I've found the Saxon registers, and a few from Máramaros county though not from Nagybánya. But there are Hungarian documents missing as well, from Budapest, where my great-grandmother ended up. She married a second time there and died there in the 1930s, yet I cannot find any trace of her. I also cannot find my grandparents birth and marriage registries, even though they were almost all born in Budapest and certainly married there
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Keep in mind that Hungarian civil registrations are mostly not yet indexed.
Do you know *where* in Budapest? Armed with a district number and a pretty good idea of the date, you should be able to find records by browsing through the images (https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/index?owc=9298-2NL%3A40678301%3Fcc%3D1452460).
Oh, and Nagybánya was in Szatmár county, not Máramaros. (Romania's jurisdictional boundaries are sometimes totally different from the old Hungarian ones.)
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I thought I should also point out that you're not going to find birth records for people born in the 1920s or 30s in Hungary, due to privacy restrictions. By some interpretations of the current insane law, birth records are private back to 1890(!), but luckily FS mostly follows its own, saner, 110-year rule.
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Oh ok I did notice that the years I'm interested in are not indexed! But as my ggmother died between 1932 and 1935, I have been sifting through the registers pf various districts. They had lived in the 16th, in Sashalom or Màtyàsföld, but most of the 16th d. documents are from Cinkota. But since she died in hospital, I've also been looking through other districts where there are hospitals. No luck yet. Ah OK, Baia Mare is in Maramaros now, wasn't sure about the 1890s...
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Oh! Ok that explains A LOT! All 4 of my grandparents were born in the 1920s (and have since passed away). But it's odd that I found my great-uncles death registry, who was born in 1920, but no one else's
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Death registers are public after 30 years, so all of the existing civil register duplicates should be available, modulo their being present in the building the day FS did its filming/digitization.
There's conflicting information about when marriage records become public, but by my observation, most districts of Budapest have marriages available on FS up to the early 1940s. (The old rule was 30-60-90, and 60 years from creation of the register is one of the intervals mentioned in the new and highly-confusing law, but I haven't seen any 1950s marriage records online.)
Don't forget the other form of death record available: funeral notices. FS has a collection of these as browsable images (https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/index?owc=https://www.familysearch.org/service/cds/recapi/sord/collection/1542666/waypoints), in alphabetical order. The National Archives also has a collection, largely overlapping with FS, but with the difference that it has an OCR-based search available (https://dspace.oszk.hu/handle/20.500.12346/111768;jsessionid=462BCD2C832007A00417A91B0A71DE2C).
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Oh thank you for that! I had only found the funeral notice of a great-grandmother in both databases, no one else, I'm afraid.
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I'm also trying to research newspapers, events, to locate a specific event in Hungary, but am at a loss where to start. It's about a fire that broke out in a cinema at the turn of the 20th century. The doors all opened inwards so in the panic no one could get out and everyone died. My great-grandfather's 2 older sisters died in the fire. Obviously, I've tried google. All I know is that my great-grandfather was born in 1890 when his mother was 50 so his sisters where much older. One of them was named Maria. The family was from Solt The fire may have happened there, or in Budapest, or elsewhere, I don't know. Can one find things like that on FamilySearch?
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Have you tried Hungaricana, or if you have a subscription, Arcanum.hu? They're the most likely places to find old newspaper reports.
_A magyar szinháztörténet forrásai_ (https://library.hungaricana.hu/en/view/SZAK_SZIN_Szk_09/?query=szinház tűzvész&pg=40&layout=s):
"... A gyertya, a petróleum és 1839-től kezdve a Magyarországon is bevezetett gázvilágítás állandó veszély forrása volt a színházakban. A villany vilagitás
alkalmazásáig /1883/ a legtöbb szinház tüz martaléka lett. Hogy csak a legjelentősebb tüzeseteket említsük, a magyarországi színházak közül 1843-ban leégett a miskolci szinház, 1847-ben a pesti német szinház, 1889-ben a Gyapjú
utcai szinház. Tűzrendészeti tekintetben azonban a bécsi Ringtheater égése hozott lényeges változást. Az 1881-ben kitört borzalmas tűzvész több száz emberáldozatot követelt. ..."
(The event is unlikely to have happened in Solt, since as far as I know, the town has never had a movie theater. The closest one that Google Maps shows is across the river in Bölcske.)
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Thank you!
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