Danish Marriage Translation of Hans Eriksen and Dorthe Andersdatter in Stokkemarke Parish, Denmark
I'm looking for the marriage of Hans Eriksen LQYX-KTP, who was born in Stokkemarke Parish in 1744. I found a marriage record for a Hans Eriksen and Dorthe Andersdatter in Stokkemarke on 2 April 1770. He is a bachelor and she is a widow. They are both from Stokkemarke farm in Stokkemarke. There are important remarks that may be very helpful that I'm hoping someone can translate! Also, what does it say in the column to the left of their names? The record is on page 580, image 449. Thank you so much for your help!
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G94W-XQ6K?i=448&cc=2078555&cat=305411
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Found her in the census of 1787:
Maribo, Lollands Sønder, Stokkemarke Sogn, Stockemarche Bye, , 49, FT-1787, B5696
Rasmus Svane 30 Gift Mand Huusmand og Skoeflikker
Dorthe Andersdatter 47 Gift Kone [Must be her 4th marriage]
Anne Hansdatter 12 - Konens Datter af 2det Ægteskab [ → her father Hans Erichsen!!]
Rasmus Olsen Brølle 8 - Hendes Søn af 3die Ægteskab [Father a Ole x-sen Brølle?]
Friderich Vilhelm Host 40 Ugift Karl
Source: Dansk Demografisk Database.With the death of Hans Erichsen in 1778, we had these children in the probate:
Peder Hansen, 7 years.
Hans Hansen, 1/4 years.
Elisabeth Hansdatter, 5 years.
Anna Hansdatter, 3 years. → in 1787 that would get us 12 years!
Census 1801:
Maribo, Lollands Sønder, Stokkemarke Sogn, Stokkemarke, , 86.Familie, FT-1801, B7706
Rasmus Marcusen Svane 51 Gift Mand Husmand med Jord og Skomager
Dorthe Andersdatter 61 Gift hans Kone
Source: Dansk Demografisk Database.
NB: So the fourth husband stays alive for longer and we have here his patronymic.1 -
So Dorthe Andersdatter is said be be from Stokkemarke in her marriage to Hans Erichsen in 1770.
She is 47 years old in 1787, so must be born ca. 1740.
Baptised: Dominica ? post Epiphania 1740 in Stokkemarke Sogn. [is it 2? sunday after Epiphany? → anyways January 1740]
Dorthe, daughter of Anders Stephans [genitive, so patronymic name Anders Stephansen] i Saltvi [modern spelling Saltvig, which is within Stokkemarke Sogn]
Source (page 29, right mid): https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=23487159#603479,929764561 -
The first marriage of Dorthe Andersdatter.
Marriage in Stokkemarke Sogn:
Peder Andersen Flensborg, enkemand (widover) from Stockemarke.
Dorthe Andersdatter, pige (= "girl", used for woman of low social status), from Stockemarke.
Married ? faste Søndag 1766 [if first sunday of the fast then the date is 16. February 1766].
Source (page 153, right second last entry): https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=23487159#603479,929765801 -
The death of Dorthe Andersdatter's first husband! She is married to Hans Erichsen only a couple of months later.
Burials in Stokkemarke Sogn.
Buried 3rd Sunday in the Fast [= 18. March 1770]: Peder Flensborg in Stockemarke.
Source (page 243, right mid): https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=23487159#603480,929768380 -
Probate 24. April 1770 after Peder (Andersen) Flensborg in Stockemarke.
Widow: Dorthe Andersdatter.
Son: Anders Pedersen, 2 1/2 years old.
Laugværge [Guardian for Dorthe Andersdatter] is Erich Hansen in Stockemarke.
Laugværge [Guardian for Anders Pedersen] is Anders Knudsen in Kiellernesse.
Source (page 38, right lower): https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17021779#131092,33987267
NB: So Hans Erichsen's father is the guardian as at the time of the probate Dorthe Andersdatter and Hans Erichsen has been betrothed [2nd April 1770].1 -
Dorthe Andersdatter's third marriage.
Trolovet [betrothed] 10 post Trinitatis [= 23rd August 1778].
Oluf [short form of Oluf is Ole] Hansen. ungkarl.
Dorthe Andersdatter, enke fra Stockemarke.
Married 8. October 1778.
Source (page 302, right nr 9): https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=23487159#603480,929768970 -
Buried 15. May 1784 in Stokkemarke Sogn: Ole Brylle i Stockemarke.
Source (page 257, left second-last entry): https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=23487159#603480,92976852
Probate after Vahre- and Skovfoged Ole Hansen Brølle [/Brylle] who lived and died in the House number 30 in Stockemarke 1. December 1784.
Widow: Dorthe Andersdatter.
Son: Rasmus Olesen, 4 1/2 years old. [appears in the Census 1787]
Source (page 123, right top): https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=22918285#487303,867711891 -
Dorthe Andersdatter's fourth marriage.
Trolovet [betrothed] 1. Maj 1785 in Stokkemarke Sogn.
Rasmus Marcussen Svane, ungkarl.
Dorthe Andersdatter, enke.
Begge i Stockemarke.
Marriage: 15 ?July? 1785 [hard to see because it's unfocused to the right]
Source (page 309, right bottom): https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=23487159#603480,929769040 -
Census 1814: Stokkemarke Sogn [one of the few places, where the 1814 census was done]
Stockemarke:
410: Rasmus Svane: 65 years old. ?…?
411: Dorthe [Andersdatter]. 60 Years old. His wife.
Source (page 20, right mid): https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17118784#156856,262976701 -
Died: 24. March 1816 in Stokkemarke Sogn.
Name: Rasmus Marcussen Svane.
Indsidder i Stokkemarke.
Age: 66 years.
Source (page 3, bottom): https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=21943633#434745,79097334
Died: 17. March 1816 i Stokkemarke Sogn:
Name: Dorthe Andersdatter.
Indsidder Rasmus Marcussen Svane's kone i Stokkemarke.
Age: 76 years old.
Source (page 4, nr 4): https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=21943633#434748,79097401
No probate for either of them, it seems.1
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This is a great question! Thanks for asking it.
The writer of the record has done some things that are too difficult to directly translate here, so I will just give the meaning of what he has written.
In the remarks column, the writer refers to the entry above this one to record that there are no reasons (such as too close relationship or other illegalities) that would prevent this couple from being married and the undersigned bondsmen have attested to that fact. Then it says that the bride (Dorthe Andersdaatter) was found to be pregnant from her previous marriage. The bondsmen are Erik (or Erich) Hansen and Rasmus Andersen. This article in the FamilySearch Wiki has some information concerning bondsmen that may be of use to you: .
The columns to the left of their names records the date of the engagement/bethrothal (trolovet) on the 2nd of April and the date of the marriage (ægteviede) on the 1st of June.
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Norm,
Thank you for your thorough answer! I looked for a birth of a daughter in 1770 with a mother named Dorthe but didn't find one. Would the birth/christening record usually say that her current husband or her deceased husband was the father?
Thanks again! Joellen
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So if it is the right marriage of "our" Hans Erichsen, then from what I found on Hans Erichsens parents the first bondsmen - Erich Hansen - must be the father of Hans Erichsen.
Rasmus Andersen could either be the brother of Hans Erichsen's mother Magrethe Andersdatter; or possible a brother of Dorthe Andersdatter?
The birth record would state if the child was uægte (out-of-wedlock) or ægte (conceived within the marriage). If it is known who the father is, then "udlagt barnefader" (named father of child) would be written for an "uægte" child.0 -
Dorthe Andersdatter's parents:
Trolovet: 13. July 1738 in Stokkemarke Sogn.
Married: Dominica 3 post Trinitatis [= 14. June 1739]
Anders Stephansøn in Kieldernes.
Maren Hansdatter (at Hr. Tranes) in Saltvig.
Source (page 131, left nr 13): https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17118784#156854,26297264NB: So Dorthe Andersdatter must be their first child.
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